All this "in the closet" remarks are missing the point, imho.

[Nicole Dupre]

Am i a close case??? Being into transwomen is not something ive told any friends/family but i have no problem being out in public, going out on dates, ect. To be honest, even if im going out with or dating a gg, its not something i really talk about with anyone. I kinda just considered myself private about my sex life, but if anyone would consider me a closet case, i'd like to know.

Big difference imo. A closet case builds a whole life based on a lie. He has a wife and kids many times who don't know that he's been having sex with men or transsexuals.

Privacy is something else.

[noble1337]

It's "not a big deal" if you're with that woman to cover up the fact that you suck cock and take it up the ass. In that case, you probably didn't even care about the woman you made the commitment to to begin with. You just kidded yourself into thinking you did. This type of thing's been going on forever.

Lots of men are secretly taking it up the ass and sucking dicks. The reason you guys are so touchy about anyone knowing is, you don't see the sheer volume of it that we do. To us, it's a joke. I assume there's at least a 50/50 chance that every man I encounter has sucked a cock or taken it in their ass, or really wants to. We would know because we see that it's not exclusive to any particular demographic. You guys wouldn't see it because it's all purely a subjective experience for you. To us, you're all no more unique than your fingerprints.

That's why I laugh at you guys. It's funny that you think anyone even cared about it in the first place, other than your family and friends who you cooperate with by keeping these charades going. But your family and friends all have skeletons in their closets too. Trust me.

i hope your not assuming i like any of those things (like taking it in the mouth/rear) or that im like the type of guy you described...unless you assume everyone here to be like that -_-.... do you?

[cc74]

"In the closet" for liking someone and not letting the world know?

Lets just avoid the topic "i wanna fuck a transgender" a sec and say a man dates a woman, why in the world would he tell her he think her best friend is sexier than her? Surely that would only hurt her! or that he finds men attractive as well (if bisexual) - something that could make her unsure about his feelings towards her. Is that feelings he keeps "in the closet" or is it just sensible to keep them private to avoid problems untill he wants to make them real?

Im not saying a man should keep quiete about it if he finds a transgender attractive, after all, the only way he can spend time to get to know her and see if it can develop into something more is by showing he accepts her, supports her and finds her attractive.

I love woman, all kinds of woman but im shallow in the sense that i cant say its all about their personality, i have to be physical attracted to them as well. It really doesnt matter if its a genetic woman, pre- or post-op transgender but i never look at a tg and think "wow, if only i could suck her cock". Im attracted to the woman not her genitals. Some might say "bisexual" etc and thats ok - thats your opinions, but at the same time i know id never find a man with a pussy attractive.

I live in a small community with zero transgenders. Why should i wear a t-shirt saying "i think Sarina Valentina is HOT" or a poster that says "id love to spend a night with Yasmin Lee" - even though her big cock scares me a little . Boys might tell the world they wanna fuck Mila Kunis or Salma Hayek but men is more mature than that. I honstly dont think i need to tell the world who im attracted to but if family or friends talk about transgenders im honest and either support their descision and if i find them attractive i say so as well. I remember Miriam Rivera made us talk alot about transgenders with her show "theres something about Miriam" a few years ago. I had no probs saying she was very very sexy and she could have "fooled" me 7 days a week, week after week and that shes hotter than most local girls.

Am i "in the closet" for not having fucked a tg or walked hand in hand with one at a local store? Some might think so but it really doesnt bother me. I like woman and thats it!

[Nicole Dupre]

i hope your not assuming i like any of those things (like taking it in the mouth/rear) or that im like the type of guy you described...unless you assume everyone here to be like that -_-.... do you?

Of course not. I assume nothing about people I don't know.

But I can tell you that, statistically, most guys who see TS escorts want to at least suck the girls' dicks. The ones who don't are rare.

[noble1337]

Of course not. I assume nothing about people I don't know.

But I can tell you that, statistically, most guys who see TS escorts want to at least suck the girls' dicks. The ones who don't are rare.

ok gotcha. once again youve cleared things up for me~

[Nicole Dupre]

"In the closet" for liking someone and not letting the world know?

Lets just avoid the topic "i wanna fuck a transgender" a sec and say a man dates a woman, why in the world would he tell her he think her best friend is sexier than her? Surely that would only hurt her! or that he finds men attractive as well (if bisexual) - something that could make her unsure about his feelings towards her. Is that feelings he keeps "in the closet" or is it just sensible to keep them private to avoid problems untill he wants to make them real?

Im not saying a man should keep quiete about it if he finds a transgender attractive, after all, the only way he can spend time to get to know her and see if it can develop into something more is by showing he accepts her, supports her and finds her attractive.

I love woman, all kinds of woman but im shallow in the sense that i cant say its all about their personality, i have to be physical attracted to them as well. It really doesnt matter if its a genetic woman, pre- or post-op transgender but i never look at a tg and think "wow, if only i could suck her cock". Im attracted to the woman not her genitals. Some might say "bisexual" etc and thats ok - thats your opinions, but at the same time i know id never find a man with a pussy attractive.

I live in a small community with zero transgenders. Why should i wear a t-shirt saying "i think Sarina Valentina is HOT" or a poster that says "id love to spend a night with Yasmin Lee" - even though her big cock scares me a little . Boys might tell the world they wanna fuck Mila Kunis or Salma Hayek but men is more mature than that. I honstly dont think i need to tell the world who im attracted to but if family or friends talk about transgenders im honest and either support their descision and if i find them attractive i say so as well. I remember Miriam Rivera made us talk alot about transgenders with her show "theres something about Miriam" a few years ago. I had no probs saying she was very very sexy and she could have "fooled" me 7 days a week, week after week and that shes hotter than most local girls.

Am i "in the closet" for not having fucked a tg or walked hand in hand with one at a local store? Some might think so but it really doesnt bother me. I like woman and thats it!

lol Well then don't worry about it imo. What you do is is your private business, right?

I didn't ask to hear a guy's life story if he saw me as a client. If they wanted to share, they shared. I didn't ask. I maintained discretion either way. Personally, I don't give a shit who's cheating on who. Just don't cheat on me or lie to me. lol

But am I impressed by a guy who isn't open enough to tell his wife what he's into? Not really. Obviously something's dysfunctional about their relationship.

Lot's of wives and GFs, believe it or not, accept their husband for who he is and what he likes. Their commitment to their relationship is bigger than him fucking any tranny escort or watching any porn. He can have his escorts and porn, and his wife understands. I don't think I could be that wife, but I respect their honesty with each other a hundred times more. But it's meaningless to me either way.

[sunairco]

The OP is conflating two separate issues. Keeping your sex life to yourself is prudent. Even str8 committed couples don't like to hear about sex with previous partners. GG's especially are touchy about that. No normal GG will tolerate anything but monogamous exclusivity with their partners be it a mistress, hook up, or prostitute. It's a threat to them and diminishes their power and value. Likewise, it's a violation of the relationship commitment that's made. Many GG's don't harbor the homophobia that men do. GG's fear the contraction of STD's from an unfaithful partner much more then the perceived notion their guy is bi or gay although the fear of HIV is worse and most likely their prime concern. The reaction is much the same as if they would discover their partner is carrying on an affair except perhaps for the legal issues surround a divorce where the association is much more reputation damning and favorable to their case. I seriously doubt any GG can see beyond the gay issue either when it comes to their men associating with a transgendered individual. GG's tend to see this as a black and white issue. It used to be that most women considered their men violating their relationship by viewing porn partly by their inability to comprehend visual stimulation as a male and partly by misunderstanding that men can just get aroused and off without desiring or comparing them to the object they are watching/fantasizing about. Now with porn ubiquitous, that's less of a matter. Many younger women have no qualms watching a lesbian, transgendered or gay video nowadays, so the discovery of their men watching/viewing transgendered porn might raise some questions in their mind that their partner might be gay or want to know about their interest. Younger women are most likely more accepting that once they realize that this is just an interest and their man doesn't act on it, it's ok and they don't feel threatened providing it doesn't interfere with their relationship. OTOH, if the guy can't perform sexually without watching or viewing porn even if it's str8, yeah, that's going to be a problem. Lots of younger women think for themselves now. Older generations were predisposed to being threatened and that a man who is discovered to have a latent interest in gay or transgendered individuals will act on them given an opportunity. There's still no shortage of marriage councilors or therapists that will emphatically insist that men have no control over their urges and it's just a matter of time, opportunity, or he just hasn't been caught. Yet it's perfectly ok in their opinion for a woman to immerse herself vicariously in romance novels or femerotica that often deals with lesbianism or rape/submission fantasy by the hours, become aroused and perhaps even masturbate, but never once give a thought on being unfaithful or predisposed to be. Younger str8 women now accept that their sexuality is "fluid" thanks to these same experts. A temorary relationship with another women is just seen as a friendship with benefits and she's not a lesbian or a closet case. Shouldn't men be given the same consideration?

[cc74]

But am I impressed by a guy who isn't open enough to tell his wife what he's into? Not really. Obviously something's dysfunctional about their relationship.

Dont flatter yourself . I had no intention to try and impress you with my post Nicole, only try and show my point about the "in the closet" remarks. You are not my type and im not yours and we both know you dont have male friends .

I do think its weird how you are an expert to tell if a relationship between a man and a genetic woman is dysfunctional or not though as each time theres talk about transgender issues most men get told to shut up as they are not a transgender themself.

[Nicole Dupre]

Dont flatter yourself . I had no intention to try and impress you with my post Nicole, only try and show my point about the "in the closet" remarks. You are not my type and im not yours and we both know you dont have male friends .

I do think its weird how you are an expert to tell if a relationship between a man and a genetic woman is dysfunctional or not though as each time theres talk about transgender issues most men get told to shut up as they are not a transgender themself.

I meant in general that I'm not impressed. It was rhetorical, genius. You're flattering yourself that I cared about you. Lol

And I actually do have straight male friends. Married ones. So please stfu. Thanks.

[Nicole Dupre]

The OP is conflating two separate issues. Keeping your sex life to yourself is prudent. Even str8 committed couples don't like to hear about sex with previous partners. GG's especially are touchy about that. No normal GG will tolerate anything but monogamous exclusivity with their partners be it a mistress, hook up, or prostitute. It's a threat to them and diminishes their power and value. Likewise, it's a violation of the relationship commitment that's made. Many GG's don't harbor the homophobia that men do. GG's fear the contraction of STD's from an unfaithful partner much more then the perceived notion their guy is bi or gay although the fear of HIV is worse and most likely their prime concern. The reaction is much the same as if they would discover their partner is carrying on an affair except perhaps for the legal issues surround a divorce where the association is much more reputation damning and favorable to their case. I seriously doubt any GG can see beyond the gay issue either when it comes to their men associating with a transgendered individual. GG's tend to see this as a black and white issue. It used to be that most women considered their men violating their relationship by viewing porn partly by their inability to comprehend visual stimulation as a male and partly by misunderstanding that men can just get aroused and off without desiring or comparing them to the object they are watching/fantasizing about. Now with porn ubiquitous, that's less of a matter. Many younger women have no qualms watching a lesbian, transgendered or gay video nowadays, so the discovery of their men watching/viewing transgendered porn might raise some questions in their mind that their partner might be gay or want to know about their interest. Younger women are most likely more accepting that once they realize that this is just an interest and their man doesn't act on it, it's ok and they don't feel threatened providing it doesn't interfere with their relationship. OTOH, if the guy can't perform sexually without watching or viewing porn even if it's str8, yeah, that's going to be a problem. Lots of younger women think for themselves now. Older generations were predisposed to being threatened and that a man who is discovered to have a latent interest in gay or transgendered individuals will act on them given an opportunity. There's still no shortage of marriage councilors or therapists that will emphatically insist that men have no control over their urges and it's just a matter of time, opportunity, or he just hasn't been caught. Yet it's perfectly ok in their opinion for a woman to immerse herself vicariously in romance novels or femerotica that often deals with lesbianism or rape/submission fantasy by the hours, become aroused and perhaps even masturbate, but never once give a thought on being unfaithful or predisposed to be. Younger str8 women now accept that their sexuality is "fluid" thanks to these same experts. A temorary relationship with another women is just seen as a friendship with benefits and she's not a lesbian or a closet case. Shouldn't men be given the same consideration?

Good post. I don't think men should be forced to put up with that type of double standard either. But I think people often make commitments prematurely and for the wrong reasons.