Natural

[Ineeda SM]

nat·u·ral   /ˈnætʃərəl, ˈnætʃrəl/ [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl]
adjective
1. existing in or formed by nature ( opposed to artificial).
2. based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process.
3. of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.
4. of, pertaining to, or occupied with the study of natural science: conducting natural experiments.
5. in a state of nature; uncultivated.

The word "Natural" means real and not artificially created. Hormone induced breasts are natural because they grew naturally. Your own body grew the glands and fatty tissue that makes up a real breast, in the same manor that a GG breast grows. Drugs may be involved, but your body did the work. Silicone implants are not natural. The are man made devices implanted into a naturally developed body. Silicone injections anywhere is not natural. It was not grown naturally by your body.

NOW! LOOKING natural is another story. Looking natural means that a breast or any body part can be artificially created or enhanced, but done in a way that LOOKS natural. Meaning you can not tell that the artificial creation is indeed artificial. If a breast enhancement is shaped and sized properly, it will LOOK natural. If Silicone or fat injections are done properly, they too can appear to be natural.

Natural is always the best choice. Even if it is not what some may find attractive. Mainly because it is the real you, and there is no health risk. Implants and injections can pose serious health problems, and they can make you look artificial. Which is usually not very attractive.

End of lesson.

[RallyCola]

nat·u·ral   /ˈnætʃərəl, ˈnætʃrəl/ [nach-er-uhl, nach-ruhl]
adjective
1. existing in or formed by nature ( opposed to artificial).
2. based on the state of things in nature; constituted by nature: Growth is a natural process.
3. of or pertaining to nature or the universe: natural beauty.
4. of, pertaining to, or occupied with the study of natural science: conducting natural experiments.
5. in a state of nature; uncultivated.

The word "Natural" means real and not artificially created. Hormone induced breasts are natural because they grew naturally. Your own body grew the glands and fatty tissue that makes up a real breast, in the same manor that a GG breast grows. Drugs may be involved, but your body did the work. Silicone implants are not natural. The are man made devices implanted into a naturally developed body. Silicone injections anywhere is not natural. It was not grown naturally by your body.

NOW! LOOKING natural is another story. Looking natural means that a breast or any body part can be artificially created or enhanced, but done in a way that LOOKS natural. Meaning you can not tell that the artificial creation is indeed artificial. If a breast enhancement is shaped and sized properly, it will LOOK natural. If Silicone or fat injections are done properly, they too can appear to be natural.

Natural is always the best choice. Even if it is not what some may find attractive. Mainly because it is the real you, and there is no health risk. Implants and injections can pose serious health problems, and they can make you look artificial. Which is usually not very attractive.

End of lesson.

so...baseball players should be able to juice because its their muscles have a natural reaction to increase in size to something that have ingested/injected.

the hormones that are taken are not naturally occurring, they are prescribed or bought. stop justifying.

[Ineeda SM]

so...baseball players should be able to juice because its their muscles have a natural reaction to increase in size to something that have ingested/injected.

the hormones that are taken are not naturally occurring, they are prescribed or bought. stop justifying.

It is Baseball that has ruled it illegal for ethics reasons only. But sports players are not taking a natural hormone. They are taking man made chemicals called steroids. They not only enhance muscles, they damage brain cells and can kill you. That just might be why they are illegal.

Actually hormones are a natural substance. They are extracted from living sources, and not man made chemicals. Many GG that have health issues take female hormones to help their bodies to be normally female. Just as men take male hormones for different health problems.

Everyone has male and female hormones in them. The hormone that has the majority determines the gender. If a male takes female hormones, their own physiology will begin to transform certain body cells to become female in appearance and actuality. Hormones do not grow body parts. They only assist your own physiology to grow natural tissue that grows by itself.

A TS with natural breasts, do not have a magical chemical inside of them that just looks like tits. Her breasts are real breast tissue with mammary glands and fatty breasts tissue. They are real breasts and grown naturally from her own physiology.

Don't take my word for it. Look it up yourself or ask a doctor.

[EvonRose]

so...baseball players should be able to juice because its their muscles have a natural reaction to increase in size to something that have ingested/injected.

the hormones that are taken are not naturally occurring, they are prescribed or bought. stop justifying.

No, this is my input on this matter... There are still unnatural occurring things in the natural world, such as birth defects. Children born with 3 arms, children born with two heads, etc being born with an xx brain inside an xy body falls under this category... taking hormones for the body to match what the brain develops as is medical treatment, not necessary surgical alteration. Hormones are a natural occurring substance we have to take medically, if a ts does not take hormones they are not women because they are not interested in a full transition. it is a proven fact taking hormones does affect the mental state and development of a ts woman, it not just physical.

[Bishounen]

steven posted this image on one of his promo threads.

this is what many on this site and many tgirl admirers would call a natural beauty. i do not know this person. i have no idea where they are mentally and emotionally in their transition but in terms of PORN, this is a pretty boy. I am not saying the boobs make a woman...but what I am saying that the idea of "natural" is just a way for some guys to justify being turned on by images such as this because other than having a somewhat androgynous face and wearing female attire, there is nothing feminine here.

Funny, because all I personally register from that pick, is "chick", as the persons "Aura" and not the least, the body and facial language, signals "Female".
Whether the person then is an actual transsexual or an Intergender, a Genderqueer, an Androgyne or what else, only the model knows, but the semi-permanent nails reveals that whatever the person are, S/he is living 24/7 in 'hirs' identity.

And if boobs makes a woman, then bio-females that do not develop breasts during puberty are not women either, by that reasoning, no matter how female they feel.

To be honest, I find this all too common reasoning that a TG got to have breasts to be a girl/a TG, ridiculous, as it seems more as a fetishistic rule in porn rather than a fact true to real life and not the least, Psychology.

I also disagree strongly about the generalisation about why all Admirers finds someone of this status "Natural", as true Admirers generally do not care much about the actual anatomy, which, on the other hand, the Trannychaser does, but rather the "aura" of the T-subject in question. Although there are ofcourse also Admirers that are fixated on the physical apparence aswell.

I am not an Admirer personally, and neither a Trannychaser, but do know how they tick.
Again, the bottom line with Admirers, is that they, contrary to the Trannychaser, are attracted to the femininity and the "concept" of the transitioner(Or the masculinity, if the trans is a Trans-guy), instead of the actual body with the male genitals, as a chaser is.
An actual admirer would hence only see the "Beauty" in a pic like the attached one, and not the actual Bio-Sex or secondary sex charactaristics in it, such as breasts or no breasts, male body build or no male body build, etc, if that makes sense.

Personally, I couldn't care less whether a TG is natural or hyper-plastic, as A: the TG will nonetheless be unnatural the moment she uses the least amount of makeup or do something with the hair, and B: When I become interested in someone, I do not become interested in the person because of the pec size, whether cis-male, cis-female, trans-male or trans-female or inbetween, but because of the overall apparence, looks, personality and "ways".

[loveboof]

When people say 'natural', they usually just mean a natural look (the appearance of being natural).

So a tgirl on hormones with a reasonably sized boob job can still be 'natural'. It is the same with make-up styles: natural doesn't mean nothing, it refers to the look.

It's not really that complicated...

[postopadmirer]

So I see a distribution of what people mean by natural. Everything from a long hair guy in drag, to a girl with hormones and boob job or even srs as long as it does not go "to far". And that is where the separation is there seem to be four clumps if opinions.
1 Add nothing period.
2 add what you want as long as it is not surgery.
3 add what you want including surgery, just don't make it look like surgery.
4 same as 3 or more as long as the girl still looks pretty/cute.




I'm not going to ask what constitutes pretty.


POA

[postopadmirer]

Thanks all for your comments.