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02-08-2006 #11Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
Governments simply act like they give a shit about common people as a publicity stunt. But when it comes down to it all, governments will rip you a thousand new assholes just as soon as give you a second glance.
Setting governments the task of reducing homelessness would be akin to setting Jeffrey Dahmer the task of reducing serial-murder.
As well, Bush-loving Bill Clinton's government staged the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, and the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. For more on that, see the below documentation resources:
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It was the FBI that bombed the World Trade Center in 1993:
None of this would be known today if it were not for the FBI's undercover agent Emad A. Salem taping his conversations with his FBI handlers (unbeknownst to them). Salem thought that the FBI might try to pin it on him so he took measures to protect himself. Indeed, without the FBI the '93 WTC bombing would never have happened, as it was agent Salem who built the bomb for the would-be Muslim "terrorists." Salem wanted to use fake ingredients for the "bomb" but the FBI ordered him to make a real one. When the making of the bomb was complete Salem told the FBI that they could now arrest the would-be terrorists, but the FBI told Salem that the bombing is to go forward. After agent Salem went public with his tapes in a news conference the FBI found it necessary to pay him over a million dollars just to shut him up.
For more on the above, see the below New York Times article:
"Tapes Depict Proposal to Thwart Bomb Used in Trade Center Blast," Ralph Blumenthal, New York Times, October 28, 1993:
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b3c830e34de.htm
And see also:
"Who Bombed The World Trade Center? FBI Bomb Builders Exposed," Paul DeRienzo, Frank Morales and Chris Flash, The Shadow, October 1994/January 1995 Issue:
http://pdr.autono.net/WhoBombedWTC.html
On the above webpage you can find the below two audio clips from one of Emad A. Salem's recorded conversations with one of his FBI handlers, FBI Special Agent John Anticev:
http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/emad%20salem.mp3
The above clip is an excerpt from the below longer clip:
http://nwo.media.xs2.net/tape/SalemWBAI.mp3
The above clips were recorded from a broadcast on WBAI Radio in the city of New York which aired this taped conversation between Emad A. Salem and FBI Special Agent John Anticev.
The below transcript is from 2:57 to 4:31 min:sec from the longer clip (SalemWBAI.mp3):
FBI Special Agent John Anticev: But, uh, basically nothing has changed. I'm just telling you for my own sake that nothing, that this isn't a salary, that it's--you know. But you got paid regularly for good information. I mean the expenses were a little bit out of the ordinary and it was really questioned. Don't tell Nancy I told you this. [Nancy Floyd is another FBI Special Agent who worked with Emad A. Salem in his informant capacity.]
Emad A. Salem: Well, I have to tell her of course.
Anticev: Well then, if you have to, you have to.
Salem: Yeah, I mean because the lady was being honest and I was being honest and everything was submitted with a receipt and now it's questionable.
Anticev: It's not questionable, it's like a little out of the ordinary.
Salem: Okay. Alright. I don't think it was. If that's what you think guys, fine, but I don't think that because we was start already building the bomb which is went off in the World Trade Center. It was built by supervising supervision from the Bureau and the D.A. and we was all informed about it and we know that the bomb start to be built. By who? By your confidential informant. What a wonderful, great case!
Anticev: Well.
Salem: And then he put his head in the sand and said "Oh, no, no, that's not true, he is son of a bitch." [Deep breath.] Okay. It's built with a different way in another place and that's it.
Anticev: No, don't make any rash decisions. I'm just trying to be as honest with you as I can.
Salem: Of course, I appreciate that.
Anticev: And as far as the payments go, and everything like that, they're there. I guarantee you that they are there.
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Concerning the Oklahoma City bombing, see the below links:
"The Oklahoma City Bombing--PROOF there were additional explosive charges," WhatReallyHappened.com:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...mbs/bombs.html
WhatReallyHappened.com Oklahoma City Bombing page:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...ICS/OK/ok.html
"Bomb Damage Analysis Of Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building" by Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, retired Commander of the U.S. Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory, July 30, 1995:
http://jeffhead.com/liberty/okcbomb.htm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...PARTIN/okm.htm
"Was FBI early arrival in Oklahoma City?--Hotel receipt shows top terror man showed up 9 hours before blast," Jon Dougherty, WorldNetDaily.com, January 19, 2002:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=26115
Iraqis were definitely involved in the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building in Oklahoma City. There is quite a lot of evidence demonstrating this. We even know the names of some of those Iraqis, like Al-Hussaini Hussain, who was also working as a baggage-handler at Boston's Logan International Airport during the 9/11 attacks, which is where American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 originated from.
Al-Hussaini Hussain is the person that witnesses identify as John Doe No. 2 who was with Timothy McVeigh in dropping off the Ryder truck in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal building. He was arrested by the FBI trying to leave the U.S. and his release was ordered by Bill Clinton through the Justice Department. Found in his custody during that arrest was the blue jogging suit that witnesses described.
Al-Hussaini Hussain is former Iraqi Republican Guard, and four other former Iraqi Republican Guard members were arrested soon after the bombing of the Murrah Federal building, but their release was ordered by Bill Clinton. These former Iraqi Republican Guard members are part of the 3,500+ Iraqi military members and their family brought into the U.S. after the Gulf War by George Bush, Sr. and further continued by Bill Clinton. For more on this transfer of Iraqi military into the U.S., see the below major media news articles:
"Iraq POWs Paid to Resettle in U.S.; Lawmakers Protest," Richard A. Serrano, Los Angeles Times, August 24, 1993:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_082493_iraq.html
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/iraqlatimes1.gif
"Resettling Iraqi POWs in U.S. Criticized; Lawmakers Urge Clinton to End 'Potentially Dangerous' Policy," William Claiborne, Washington Post, August 25, 1993:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/news_alert_082593_iraq.html
Many of the confiscated tapes of the twelve video survailance cameras that were in front of the Murrah Federal building record exactly what witnesses described: Al-Hussaini Hussain dropping off the Ryder truck with Timothy McVeigh--Al-Hussaini Hussain as the passenger and Timothy McVeigh as the driver. And this according to high-level FBI sources who have seen the tapes, as quoted by the Los Angeles Times and Oklahoma City KFOR-TV news. These video survailance tapes were confiscated by the U.S. government under the National Security Act.
For more on this evidence which I have been relating to you, I urge you to watch at least the first part (which deals with the Oklahoma City bombing) of the video documentary "911: The Road to Tyranny" by political talk radio host Alex Jones, of which can be viewed below in its entirety for free:
http://conspiracycentral.net:6969/?search=tyranny
http://911.mazesoftware.com
http://100777.com/doc/30
http://www.c0balt.com/resources/911/download.shtml
http://infowars.com/video_clips.html (There is only the first part of the video on the Infowars website.)
And see:
"Search For The Missing Iraqis: Ask Daddy Bush And Clinton" by Wade Inganamort:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis...03_iraqis.html
See also:
"The real story of Iraqis at OKC bombing. Not the one you think!":
http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/11/1542199.php
As well, see the below book which is online in its entirety and for free:
The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror by David Hoffman, foreward by Oklahoma State Representative Charles Key (Feral House; 199, ISBN: 0-922915-49-0 (0922915490):
http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm
The above book by David Hoffman is very thoroughly referenced, and is introduced by Oklahoma State Rep. Charles Key. For more on this book and its author, see the below webpage:
http://www.beachnet.com/~hoffman/BookAd.html
Boys will be girls.
Author (under a nom de plume) of "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Dec. 4, 2011, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 ; Theophysics, http://theophysics.freevar.com .
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02-08-2006 #12
Jamie, I am sure you are sincere, but to bring up all that conspiracy crap in in a thread about homelessness suggests that your lights are on, but no one is home
FK
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02-08-2006 #13Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
Rather, I believe in conspiracy facts.
For more on this, see the below documentation resources:
"Why Indeed did the WTC Buildings Collapse?," Prof. Steven E. Jones, Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, to be contained in "The Hidden History of 9-11-2001," Research in Political Economy, Vol. 23, Paul Zarembka, editor (Amsterdam, Netherlands: Elsevier, Spring 2006):
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
"Thinking About 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK," Prof. James H. Fetzer, University of Minnesota, to be contained in 9/11 and the American Empire: Intellectuals Speak Out, David Ray Griffin and Peter Dale Scott, editors (Northampton, Massachusetts: Olive Branch Press [an imprint of Interlink Publishing Group, Inc.], 2006):
http://www.d.umn.edu/~jfetzer/fetzerexpandedx.doc
"The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True," Prof. David Ray Griffin, based on a lecture given in New York, New York on October 15 and 16, 2005:
http://www.911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html
For more on government-staged terrorism, see the below post by me:
"Documentation on Government-Staged Terrorism," September 30, 2005:
http://www.armleg.com/forum/viewtopi...ibertyandtruth
Boys will be girls.
Author (under a nom de plume) of "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Dec. 4, 2011, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 ; Theophysics, http://theophysics.freevar.com .
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02-08-2006 #14
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FK rules!
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02-08-2006 #15Originally Posted by chefmike
Boys will be girls.
Author (under a nom de plume) of "Jesus Is an Anarchist", Dec. 4, 2011, http://ssrn.com/abstract=1337761 ; Theophysics, http://theophysics.freevar.com .
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02-08-2006 #16
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Arnold, it's really uncalled for to start using an
obviously unwanted gender designation for
someone just because you don't believe the same
things as them.
Kudos to Felicia for doing her research. This idea
that Clinton not Bush somehow dropped the ball
on national security which contributed to 9/11 is
one of the worst lies the neocons have promoted.
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02-08-2006 #17Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
However, if you are going to say Clinton "created" those jobs, here is a document which says Bush created x jobs as well. If you recall, job creation was a big reelection thing in the Bush camp right?
http://www.atr.org/content/html/2004...bs_11-5-04.htm
The recession was already in progress. It didn't happen in a few months. Clinton had the reigns for the prior 8 years, he is responsible. I do not agree with your "debunked" comment.
That is the problem with both political parties, they deflect blame. The only reason there are two parties is so the right hand can point to the left hand when things aren't going right. Politics are retarded. It is finger pointing about whose fault the bad things are and who gets credit for the good things... If jobs are created, it is because of the Republican congress, if they go away, it is because of the Democratic President,... obviously none of that is true.
Therefor, I discredit all of your comments here as giving your prefered party preferential treatment. You are part of the problem with all things good (even when they aren't) over here, and all things bad over there.
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02-08-2006 #19
That is pretty funny. I'll give you that.
I am not Republican though. Maybe I am a conservative independent.
I'm pro-abortion, for the legalization of marijuana (which I don't even use), and also believe prostitution should be legal.
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02-09-2006 #20
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Originally Posted by Vicki Richter
As for the kind bud, I haven't partaken myself for about 3 years. although I think that I may be ready to start again...It's not like I don't get enough offers in my line of work...
If and when I do... I would invite you to join me, except for the fact that I wouldn't want to incur the J Hinckley like wrath of a certain member of this forum who is obsessed with you...