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    Grooby screws the transsexuals over by offering them 500 a scene and then making thousands of that model alone. Grooby also likes to steal alternate versions of existing webpages from their models, overall it's a group of greedy mongrels who exploit transgenders for monetary gain. The girls who work consistently with them have nothing going for themselves and all end up on escort sites, which if you've noticed doesn't occur with female Porn stars (so I assume they are paid more). Shemale club actually pays more and takes care of certain travel, hotel and etc arrangements.
    Grooby also has very shitty photographers (pardon my French) bad lighting, bad angles and NO makeup artist. How many people like to see pimples, cellulite, facial hair, and razor burn on the girls? I would assume very few since porn is glamour.. Most men covet models and video vixens who are retouched by graphic artists because they become seemingly flawless (and I'm not talking about changing features just smoothing less flattering areas and evening skin tones). Kinda like a digital airbrush makeup and spanx, lol.
    Also let us not forget the very loose term she male and transsexual....

    I remember when shemale meant a woman with a dick, not a criminal with maybelline and walmart lingerie....
    And by definition transsexual actually means doing something to change to the opposite sex you were born as (physically). How many grooby tgirls do you see that look like they have ever swallowed estrogen in their life? Now how many shemale club tgirls?
    I apologize for the rant I am just going into depth of why grooby is cheaper overall and why other sites with more taste and class charge more...



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    Default Re: Why Is Shemale Porn So Expensive?

    is cheap.... Scat and bestiality porn are 3 times more expensive, real german Torture DVDS costs 80euro



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    Quote Originally Posted by grooby frank View Post
    I have no Idea were you get your Stats. GG's make as little as half as much per scene as TS performers. Only the superstars and contract girls make more. And solo shoots are even less. Their is an abundance of GG's willing to either work or foray into the Adult industry for quick easy money. Their are a lot less TS in the greater population, then from that number the amount willing to work in the Adult Industry make it a very small talent pool indeed.

    Frank
    I do recall many TS on this site saying GG's make more than TS performers. Biological women can make up to thousands per scene without being a contract girl.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderous-marge View Post
    Grooby screws the transsexuals over by offering them 500 a scene and then making thousands of that model alone. Grooby also likes to steal alternate versions of existing webpages from their models, overall it's a group of greedy mongrels who exploit transgenders for monetary gain. The girls who work consistently with them have nothing going for themselves and all end up on escort sites, which if you've noticed doesn't occur with female Porn stars (so I assume they are paid more). Shemale club actually pays more and takes care of certain travel, hotel and etc arrangements.
    Grooby also has very shitty photographers (pardon my French) bad lighting, bad angles and NO makeup artist. How many people like to see pimples, cellulite, facial hair, and razor burn on the girls? I would assume very few since porn is glamour.. Most men covet models and video vixens who are retouched by graphic artists because they become seemingly flawless (and I'm not talking about changing features just smoothing less flattering areas and evening skin tones). Kinda like a digital airbrush makeup and spanx, lol.
    Also let us not forget the very loose term she male and transsexual....

    I remember when shemale meant a woman with a dick, not a criminal with maybelline and walmart lingerie....
    And by definition transsexual actually means doing something to change to the opposite sex you were born as (physically). How many grooby tgirls do you see that look like they have ever swallowed estrogen in their life? Now how many shemale club tgirls?
    I apologize for the rant I am just going into depth of why grooby is cheaper overall and why other sites with more taste and class charge more...

    I've heard that $500. figure kicked around, and it blew me away. I understand supply, demand, and product...I own 3 businesses, but for 500 bucks I wouldn't even get out of bed let alone travel, prepare and let some dude pound my ass for 30 minutes, only to have no ownership of your work product....not in a multi billion dollar industry ....but I suppose in the end....you get what you pay for like anything else. I wouldn't mind paying more for a gallon of milk if I was sure the hard working, underpaid bastard raising the cows actually got the money...but that's not likely to happen.....he'll never see a penny of it. I guess I'm not shedding any tears for either side, it's a willing partnership, but 500 bucks is a joke.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Murderous-marge/Bella View Post
    Grooby screws the transsexuals over by offering them 500 a scene and then making thousands of that model alone. Grooby also likes to steal alternate versions of existing webpages from their models, overall it's a group of greedy mongrels who exploit transgenders for monetary gain. The girls who work consistently with them have nothing going for themselves and all end up on escort sites, which if you've noticed doesn't occur with female Porn stars (so I assume they are paid more). Shemale club actually pays more and takes care of certain travel, hotel and etc arrangements.
    Grooby also has very shitty photographers (pardon my French) bad lighting, bad angles and NO makeup artist. How many people like to see pimples, cellulite, facial hair, and razor burn on the girls? I would assume very few since porn is glamour.. Most men covet models and video vixens who are retouched by graphic artists because they become seemingly flawless (and I'm not talking about changing features just smoothing less flattering areas and evening skin tones). Kinda like a digital airbrush makeup and spanx, lol.
    Also let us not forget the very loose term she male and transsexual....

    I remember when shemale meant a woman with a dick, not a criminal with maybelline and walmart lingerie....
    And by definition transsexual actually means doing something to change to the opposite sex you were born as (physically). How many grooby tgirls do you see that look like they have ever swallowed estrogen in their life? Now how many shemale club tgirls?
    I apologize for the rant I am just going into depth of why grooby is cheaper overall and why other sites with more taste and class charge more...
    If Grooby screws over transsexuals like you say,why do they continue to work with them. And if there's thousands to be made from transsexual porn
    why are not more company's doing it ?



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    Default Re: Why Is Shemale Porn So Expensive?

    grooby has a mass audience with a diverse preference of model types.
    I may like early transition girls and p/t CD's that don't fit the image of glamorous ultra-fem transwomen models. It's a debate we constantly see on HA when a nasty post will call someone a thug boy in a wig. That boy in a wig is exactly what someone else is willing to pay to view.



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    I won't bother responding to "murderous-marge" whom I think it's pretty clear who is that bitter, man-hater who I think appears on most people's "Tranny Porn Dead Pool".

    Why is TS porn so expensive? It's not. It's a small niche market and cannot be compared to mainstream porn. If we had the potential to sell the site to 10,000's of members at $10-$20 per month then we would do that but we have a budget that needs to be met to get the content and run the sites, to maintain what we hope is our maximum membership level and for us that's between $19.99 and $34.99 depending on the site and the amount and costs of the content.

    I always find it hilarious when so called business persons look at one fixed raw material cost and then base all their assumptions off that. We pay $600 to US/Euro models for solo shoots and $800 for hardcore which is pretty much about what most website producers pay them. To get a $600 shoot to being published on a site we have to pay the photographers, photoshop editors, video editors, webmasers, promotions/marketing, affiliate manager, book-keeper, office/studio rent, graphic designers, drivers, general bills and then all billing company costs before we see a penny of profit. THAT is how business works.

    As a previous poster stated, if WE were that bad and the rest of the industry so good, then why do models continue to work with us, multiple times?



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    I won't bother responding to "murderous-marge" whom I think it's pretty clear who is that bitter, man-hater who I think appears on most people's "Tranny Porn Dead Pool".

    Why is TS porn so expensive? It's not. It's a small niche market and cannot be compared to mainstream porn. If we had the potential to sell the site to 10,000's of members at $10-$20 per month then we would do that but we have a budget that needs to be met to get the content and run the sites, to maintain what we hope is our maximum membership level and for us that's between $19.99 and $34.99 depending on the site and the amount and costs of the content.

    I always find it hilarious when so called business persons look at one fixed raw material cost and then base all their assumptions off that. We pay $600 to US/Euro models for solo shoots and $800 for hardcore which is pretty much about what most website producers pay them. To get a $600 shoot to being published on a site we have to pay the photographers, photoshop editors, video editors, webmasers, promotions/marketing, affiliate manager, book-keeper, office/studio rent, graphic designers, drivers, general bills and then all billing company costs before we see a penny of profit. THAT is how business works.

    As a previous poster stated, if WE were that bad and the rest of the industry so good, then why do models continue to work with us, multiple times?
    I think if people knew how much work it actually takes to produce a good scene they would understand more. People think that we as producers are just rolling in money. I'll admit before I had entered the industry I thought that every porn producer was a multi-millionaire too. People need to understand that its a job like any other, and with the piracy these days its a miracle we make any money at all. Soon porn will be extinct because people aren't paying us for our content. Photographers are told to take breaks right before holidays because the budgets simply aren't there to allow us to work. $600 for a solo shoot of 1.5 hours of masturbating is pretty damn good. It is also the highest rate for solos in the whole industry! Grooby pays more than anybody else. I am pretty sure SMC pays just the same if not a bit less. So whoever said that has their head up their fucking ass.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKLIN View Post
    Biological women can make up to thousands per scene without being a contract girl.
    source?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Dong View Post
    I think if people knew how much work it actually takes to produce a good scene they would understand more. People think that we as producers are just rolling in money. I'll admit before I had entered the industry I thought that every porn producer was a multi-millionaire too. People need to understand that its a job like any other, and with the piracy these days its a miracle we make any money at all. Soon porn will be extinct because people aren't paying us for our content. Photographers are told to take breaks right before holidays because the budgets simply aren't there to allow us to work. $600 for a solo shoot of 1.5 hours of masturbating is pretty damn good. It is also the highest rate for solos in the whole industry! Grooby pays more than anybody else. I am pretty sure SMC pays just the same if not a bit less. So whoever said that has their head up their fucking ass.

    Kevin SMC and Grooby pay the same for shoots but require diff content amount. Going solo rates are 500-600 across the board. FYI Joey pays the best and strokers pays the best for the least solo work.


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