Can one be TG without implants and hormones?

[Bobzz]

Can one be TG without implants and hormones?

No. Probably not anyone that the majority of people on this site would be interested in.... just sayin.

[EvonRose]

Can one be TG without implants and hormones?

No. Probably not anyone that the majority of people on this site would be interested in.... just sayin.

Yes a tg is not a ts so they can be a tg without implants or hormones tg includes, everyone basically that doesn't have the srs or isn't getting one.

A transsexual is someone who is going to or got the full srs. so that's quite different.

[Heather Moorland]

All those that you have listed above abide by the Harry Benjamin protocol, Getting an srs in the US, Thailand, Canada and other advanced countries abide by the Harry Benjamin protocol, if you don't you will not be allowed to get an srs, TRUE FACT. Even then they make a mistake rarely and then ppl end up killing themselves after srs, there is a reason why the t world is categorized in different labels! not everyone is fit for some things, and some qualify for some others don't. A tg would never know or feel how a ts feels, ts have more of a higher extreme level of this GID thereof we are categorized and treated differently...

The Harry Benjamin protocol is to day called WPATH Standards of Care. Ofcause they make mistakes form time to time. They are human after all. However the stastistict I have seen the regrets is under 1%. Most of the regrets are due to medical complications. It is after all a complicated procedure and people should be aware that it can go wrong. Especially if the surgeon does not have enough experience. An other group of regrets are the religious regrets. Their surgery could very well be theraputically well founded but they was just so unlucky as to be hijact by people who told them that what they had done was sinfull and that they will go to hell if they don't transition back. Now I don't say that mistakes wont happen like a person who should have been diagnosed F65 (Fetishism) by mistake has got a F64 (GID) diagnoses but they are wery rare.

You talk about transgender (tg). The term "transgender" is not, and never was an official psychiatric diagnoses. To day it is most widely used as an umbrella term that also incompas transsexuals (ts). I do know that there are different deffinitions of "transgender" but non of it is official in any way.

Knowing how other people feel is somthing we just dont know, whether we are TS or not and whether we have the same literal self identification or not. We know how we feel our selves. And ofcause what we feel is valid. If a person feel that going forward with the transition is a lesser pain than going backward and de-transition. By all means continue.

[Heather Moorland]

Can one be TG without implants and hormones?

No. Probably not anyone that the majority of people on this site would be interested in.... just sayin.

First you have to define things
On this site the girls have different deffinitions of these terms.
The guys on the other hand have this deffinition;
TS,TG,TV,CD,GID,Shemale,what ever = a chick with a dick = object of lust
In the guys deffinition "a chick with a dick" can not be without implants and hormones (at least not practically)
In the girls deffinitions its different. After all for us it is primarily a question of how we feel. The look is only somthing we do for you guys (well sort of)

[EvonRose]

The Harry Benjamin protocol is to day called WPATH Standards of Care. Ofcause they make mistakes form time to time. They are human after all. However the stastistict I have seen the regrets is under 1%. Most of the regrets are due to medical complications. It is after all a complicated procedure and people should be aware that it can go wrong. Especially if the surgeon does not have enough experience. An other group of regrets are the religious regrets. Their surgery could very well be theraputically well founded but they was just so unlucky as to be hijact by people who told them that what they had done was sinfull and that they will go to hell if they don't transition back. Now I don't say that mistakes wont happen like a person who should have been diagnosed F65 (Fetishism) by mistake has got a F64 (GID) diagnoses but they are wery rare.

You talk about transgender (tg). The term "transgender" is not, and never was an official psychiatric diagnoses. To day it is most widely used as an umbrella term that also incompas transsexuals (ts). I do know that there are different deffinitions of "transgender" but non of it is official in any way.

Knowing how other people feel is somthing we just dont know, whether we are TS or not and whether we have the same literal self identification or not. We know how we feel our selves. And ofcause what we feel is valid. If a person feel that going forward with the transition is a lesser pain than going backward and de-transition. By all means continue.

From a comment below, actions speak louder than words, I as a woman should do my research in the doctors, the surgeons, the complications of srs or hormones. You live life tot try to fulfill a goal and if anything goes wrong you don't just kill yourself, you move forward being a woman, the efforts in itself made me a woman, I want the surgery end of story... And im not ever going to live life in this body. The protocol requires many physiological evaluations because of the risk of complication which BTW if done by a good doctor is low, the point of the evaluation is to make sure one is comfortable to live without the penis that means even with complications, people do srs because "oh i have a vagina now i get to fuck guys" then a complication happens they kill themselves, I was raised in a religious home and I went against it and im completely happy, all of this are excuses to me, you live life for you not the church, not the men, not the family. a true woman would go above and beyond anything to fulfill her dream, if not and they call themselves a true transsexual i question it...

[Prospero]

A simplistic question. Of course you can be transgendered without the implants and hormones. It's a thing far deeper than physical trappings. its about a sense of being. About who you really are.

[EvonRose]

First you have to define things
On this site the girls have different deffinitions of these terms.
The guys on the other hand have this deffinition;
TS,TG,TV,CD,GID,Shemale,what ever = a chick with a dick = object of lust
In the guys deffinition "a chick with a dick" can not be without implants and hormones (at least not practically)
In the girls deffinitions its different. After all for us it is primarily a question of how we feel. The look is only somthing we do for you guys (well sort of)

I'm sorry but i go with reality not how I feel, if a cross-dresser told me she was a transsexual I would say no your a cross-dresser, to feel it you must act it, live, it, breath it... There is nothing wrong with labels in my opinion, but the education has to be there to get rid of confusion. The uneducated would just call any ts/tg a cross dresser. That could be offensive! because were not that is what the label is for, were all beautiful and we are all sisters alike, but all these pain and suffering i put my body trough with hormones, and emotional journey I would like credit for it! I am a transsexual accept it or not. This is my label and i'm sticking to it.

actually fuck that im a WOMAN!

[tsadriana]

I'm sorry but i go with reality not how I feel, if a cross-dresser told me she was a transsexual I would say no your a cross-dresser, to feel it you must act it, live, it, breath it... There is nothing wrong with labels in my opinion, but the education has to be there to get rid of confusion. The uneducated would just call any ts/tg a cross dresser. That could be offensive! because were not that is what the label is for, were all beautiful and we are all sisters alike, but all these pain and suffering i put my body trough with hormones, and emotional journey I would like credit for it! I am a transsexual accept it or not. This is my label and i'm sticking to it.

True so true Evon love ur lips
french kiss?

[Prospero]

I wholly accept that you are a transexual Evon and never questioned it for a moment. But isn't a transexual someone born with the "soul" of the opposite gender - man with a woman's soul etc. That is the inner being and the bravest souls are people like you who then embark on the troubled and challenging journey to become that inner person. That's what I meant.

[EvonRose]

I wholly accept that you are a transexual Evon and never questioned it for a moment. But isn't a transexual someone born with the "soul" of the opposite gender - man with a woman's soul etc. That is the inner being and the bravest souls are people like you who then embark on the troubled and challenging journey to become that inner person. That's what I meant.

No i was born a woman just with a big clit... what are you talking about? lol