So guess where honesty just landed me..

[Quiet Reflections]

lol....I have met women randomly in a club like tryst, boom boom room, avalon, liv. The night started with friendship type energy and when i told them i was a tg we ended the night fucking... So I guess i've been dating the right women.. lucky I guess..

it is different if you are a TS going for a GG than it is if you are a guy into TS going after a GG that has totally different equipment than what you just told her you like.

[EvonRose]

I don't have to be a different organism to know it's habits. I lie because it suits my needs(I come first),that simple.That guy was inexperienced,that's why I offered my help,balls(lol)have nothing to do with it.I never banged a TS,but I am lying like a mutha fucka to her,lol.

So because I lie about being a Muslim,I want her to be my slave??You sound like you reaching,just to go back and forth with me.Who cares If you would tolerate it(I wouldn't tolerate a chick banging hundreds of other dudes)lol.Evil is a chick pretending to like a guy,but only using him for money.I don't plan on wifing her,because she's a prude.Yeah,I'm shitting all over her face,lol--->wtf

She's like the only person I'm seeing anyway,so who am I cheating with???lol
Well,not in less porn counts.Then I am a complete whore

He told a girl he barely knew that he was into trannyz,that's a rookie move.I gave him the advice,so he wouldn't make that same mistake again.I don't touch weewee's so that doesn't apply to me.I beatz da puzzy,not iz da puzzy,lol.What's with the name calling??really??

Women have made advances in society,that's a good thing.You the success of women as a weapon speaks to your sexism.I do live in the modern era,were women constantly try to take advantage.I just believe in pre-firing

DL 4LIFE,lol

Well then all this sums it up, that's why the lesbian population increased. Lol.. I get it your the douche type of guy its fine. No porn doesn't count, and jacking off doesn't count as cheating porn helps me when im too sore to get penetrated so porn is my hero.

[Bobby Domino]

would you be open to having tg Girlfriend and having threesome with gg?

an emphatic yes!!!!!

In a lot of ways I do agree with you, I notice tg admirers dont know what to do, at times. And i am also learning to get to know the person first then when we get kinky that's when I say hey I like to be tied up and blindfolded and spanked. But i don't think it was stupid of him to say I think he made the right decision if the girl was hypocritical dyke anyway.

Evon, you are full of surprises, very very good surprises

[EvonRose]

Now you're bringing stats into it, shame shame; don't make the same mistake as Dr. Screw. Show me a stat that proves you're point.

Yes, I agree with you. If the desire to be with TGs is that strong, putting it out there from the start will makes things easier, but most people DO NOT act on their fantasies. That is not the norm, not the exception. Fantasies are fantasies, people rely on magazines, books, movies, and the internet to fulfill them. People are afraid to indulge in their fantasies. As much as they THINK they would like it, they have no desire to become part of the culture, to be associated with it. Shit, half of the members on here have NEVER been with a TG. There's a thread on it, look it up. I find that incredible!!!

TG realists/supporters are a minuscule community. The life that you and other TGs live is incredibly difficult and I am completely in awe with your courage & determination. You have all my respect and support , but as much as I am conscious of your reality, I am also aware that most people don't understand TGs and project you in negative light. I'm sensitive to that. The response the OP got is the likely reaction anyone would have given. I commend the OP's bravery to offer that type of info.


If I enjoyed sleeping with a girl's dirty panties over my head, I wouldn't tell her on the first date, that's all, although it might make things very interesting


EDIT:
I also disagree that 5 years in the relationship, she would have had the same reaction. If you've built a relationship for 5 years, you've invested enough to try to understand the person you love. I'm sure it's case by case, but I know many people who've worked things through (drug addiction, gambling, fetishes, disease, homosexuality, adultery)

read up the Kinsey sex book it is a book that medical and physiologist take to account and is studied in human sexuality I have read it with my mom as a child. Unlike some people when I put a percentage out there I don't do it just because... I am a woman of facts I wouldn't claim anything but.

also the Kinsey sex book states it is that case of a person not acting on fantasy if the fantasy is illegal, or immoral. Fantasies which are easily accessible are 75 percent more likely to be acted upon such as ts fantasy. Nothing about is is illegal, or immoral according to the law.

There is also a study in the book about transensualism that's the attraction to tg/tv since 1950 it was at 33.7 percent and increased up to 45 percent in 1988... out of that 45 percent 38 percent have acted upon. I would rather read a text medical book than to go to HA and read a poll...

and if you disagree that possibly is against your odds after five years then why do 50 percent of men cheat on their wives? and why does 50 percent of marriage end in divorce? Studies have proven if you look that those two percentage are somehow linked... You may know some people who worked trough it but that SOME is a very small percentage of the norm that doesn't make it.

Cheating is number 3 cause for divorce, and communication is 1. Both related. TRUE FACTS.

All im saying is I commend the man for telling the truth more balls than you can summon up, and hey it didn't work out he has now the opportunity to look for a girl that share the same interest maybe...

[EvonRose]

it is different if you are a TS going for a GG than it is if you are a guy into TS going after a GG that has totally different equipment than what you just told her you like.

So then explain why they would want a relationship with me? You missed the point. There are women out there like this.

[doctor screw]

Well then all this sums it up, that's why the lesbian population increased. Lol.. I get it your the douche type of guy its fine. No porn doesn't count, and jacking off doesn't count as cheating porn helps me when im too sore to get penetrated so porn is my hero.

The lesbian population is exploding,because chicks are outta their fucking minds,lol.
Just saying

[EvonRose]

The lesbian population is exploding,because chicks are outta their fucking minds,lol.
Just saying

Maybe your right, but maybe dicks are not enough...Sometimes we need the communication and honesty and this thread obviously proves men lack that. lol.. jk

[Bobby Domino]

read up the Kinsey sex book it is a book that medical and physiologist take to account and is studied in human sexuality I have read it with my mom as a child. Unlike some people when I put a percentage out there I don't do it just because... I am a woman of facts I wouldn't claim anything but.

also the Kinsey sex book states it is that case of a person not acting on fantasy if the fantasy is illegal, or immoral. Fantasies which are easily accessible are 75 percent more likely to be acted upon such as ts fantasy. Nothing about is is illegal, or immoral according to the law.

That's the problem - society sees an attraction to a transsexual as IMMORAL!! It doesn't matter if it's legal.

There are men who like to wear women's clothes. They're not going to work dressed like that.

There is also a study in the book about transensualism that's the attraction to tg/tv since 1950 it was at 33.7 percent and increased up to 45 percent in 1988... out of that 45 percent 38 percent have acted upon. I would rather read a text medical book than to go to HA and read a poll...

Attraction is up - great; HA will have more members.
38% of 45 = 17. 17% have actually followed through. Smaller number than what thought, still a very small minority.

and if you disagree that possibly is against your odds after five years then why do 50 percent of men cheat on their wives? and why does 50 percent of marriage end in divorce? Studies have proven if you look that those two percentage are somehow linked... You may know some people who worked trough it but that SOME is a very small percentage of the norm that doesn't make it.

Cheating is number 3 cause for divorce, and communication is 1. Both related. TRUE FACTS.

How many of those divorces & adultery happened before 5 years of marriage. Women cheat, too, by the way.

So we are both arguing small percentages. Evon, I'm not against the advice you gave. It's just I wouldn't have taken the same steps as the OP. I deal with my relationships differently. I'm not going to play all my cards. I have to develop trust with someone before I begin to reveal my soul.

Yes, communication is key, which is what I hope we're doing

All im saying is I commend the man for telling the truth more balls than you can summon up, and hey it didn't work out he has now the opportunity to look for a girl that share the same interest maybe...

there's a fine distinction between being courageous and being naive

[EvonRose]

That's the problem - society sees an attraction to a transsexual as IMMORAL!! It doesn't matter if it's legal.

There are men who like to wear women's clothes. They're not going to work dressed like that.



Attraction is up - great; HA will have more members.
38% of 45 = 17. 17% have actually followed through. Smaller number than what thought, still a very small minority.



How many of those divorces & adultery happened before 5 years of marriage. Women cheat, too, by the way.

So we are both arguing small percentages. Evon, I'm not against the advice you gave. It's just I wouldn't have taken the same steps as the OP. I deal with my relationships differently. I'm not going to play all my cards. I have to develop trust with someone before I begin to reveal my soul.

Yes, communication is key, which is what I hope we're doing



there's a fine distinction between being courageous and being naive

I never said ts is immoral, that's why according to this book these kind of fantasy is acted upon more in percent like group sex, bondage, etc. Dressing like a woman is different to living a woman i cant speak on behalf of the cross dressers.

Yes women cheat too I agree! but men are in the higher percentage of it, the average marriage last 8 years in the us before divorce so if that's the average there's a big group that last less than 5 years. and many have said its communication with money, sex, and lifestyle. So in conclusion the guy who told the girl probably saved his ass 8 years of marriage if this percentile proves my point about sexual openness...

Developing a trust is all good and im for it but how long 5 years until you open up and the girl doesn't want what you have to say? In my opinion I want to know what i'm getting myself into before. I can sense when a man doesn't tell me the truth and that makes me investigative, the ounce of lie, or dishonesty makes me suspicious and suspicious Evon is not pretty.

He wasn't naive for telling the girl obviously his gut feeling told him to do it and it will turn out for the better trust me, you can only go up from here.

I'm the type of girl that demands the truth whether I want to hear it or not, this is life lets face it.

[AmericanDream]

Yes women cheat too I agree! but men are in the higher percentage of it,

Men are in the higher percentage of it? Where'd you pull that from? smh

the average marriage last 8 years in the us before divorce so if that's the average there's a big group that last less than 5 years.

Then there is a big group that last over 8 years too.

The guys honesty (I'd call it stupidity) didn't save him from anything. Unless if he wants to be alone browsing hungangels his entire life. That might have been a great person that he was talking too and they could've got together great and had a happy life together. If he likes t-girls so much than he should stop wasting time with females.