Trannys were once a new thrill for you guys.

[Prospero]

Okay Nicole - misunderstood you a bit. Yes - I suspect that some of your suspicions are accurate. I bow to your obviously wide experience of men and their sexuality. But in all probability the bulk of the perversions" or "kinks" you list are ones which are mutually pretty harmless - ie bondage, high heels, smoking etc. I think many men are, perhaps, like me - a sensualist. I love the realm of the senses - intoxications and erotic play. I enjoy a wide range of sexual behaviour - I am a top and bottom. I have tried bondage (though not as a top) but find much of the other stuff listed ludicrous (adult baby play etc) or just plain revolting (scat) or more than revolting (paedophilia and necrophilia and bestiality) The key thing about sexuality is mutual consent - and respect for innocence (ie children)

However I would defend the realm of sensual sexual play and argue that the idea it necessarily leads to the pursuit of deeper darker desires as unproven. In some cases it might - but I suspect the bulk of the men who visit this site and those who post in the review section are sexual exploers, but one;s who aren't interested in those truly far-out and sinister elements of sexuality.

In the end though i can only speak for myself. And i know I've not addressed the other key question in your post. Are TS girls simply a fetish. For me for reasons of my age and circumstance - now they must remain a late developed passion. If i were 20 again and feel as i do now then I am certain I would be looking for a life partner from this community. But at 20 and 30 I had NO idea transexuals even existed.

[Nicole Dupre]

Some guys love the mystery of whether or not a woman was born male. But some need that to enjoy us. Some guys see our transitions as an incredibly powerful act. Power is an aphrodisiac.

Some guys love the idea that a girl looks underage, but they don't actually want her to be. I understand that too.

Personally, I don't frown upon anything sexual between consenting adults. Nothing. If you want to fuck a quadriplegic midget, I'm all for it as long as it was consensual. I don't understand it, but it's none of my business. Being an actual sexual predator is something else. But roleplay often involves rape. I've roleplayed raping men MANY times. It's a fantasy. Sane people know the difference.

[Yvonne183]

Yvonne wrote: " when I was very young, the men that were attracted to me and had sex with me would be classified as such but whether it had to do with me looking like a girl is unclear. I believe these guys would have molested me if i was either a boy or girl."

Plenty of men are attracted to teenage girls - who are often legally underage. Technically - in the eyes of the law - this is paedophilia. But I think a 25 year old who dates and maybe has sex with a 15 year old is - by and large - a fool but not a sex monster. Plenty of girls under the age of consent are also keen to have sex - and usually with boys or men older than themselves. It's always been a fact of the world.
Paedophilia is surely something else really - the sick creeps who want to molest babies, toddlers or the very young.

How could you possibly know that the guys I was with were not Peds,, were you there? Did you talk to them? Were you one of them? How the hell do you know?

[Prospero]

Sure of course i don't know. But do YOU? For goodness sake. You beleive you say - but you don't know. Such accusations don't do you justice.

[Nicole Dupre]

Well remember one of the most popular thread in here was the club kids thread. So you can take that as it is. As for everything else I haven't found the right gg let alone tg so i'm pretty much status unknown. If I did meet the right tg i'm not even sure how i'd feel.

Many people wouldn't know how to deal with meeting the right life partner, period. Some people aren't ready to share their life with someone else at all. Personally, I know what I think would make or break a LTR for myself. Ultimately, I would never allow myself to fall in love while being a sexworker. I know it won't work. Any man is welcome to sweep me off of my feet and provide me with both love and financial security, and prove me wrong. But I would never hold my breath. And if I actively seek such a man out, then I get labeled a gold digger. So my cards remain on the table, and I don't care how things play out. When I'm done being a sexworker, that will change my options. But then having a conventional career and being independent is yet another thing I'd be forced to weigh against sharing my life and letting someone "take care of" me. And SRS is yet another bridge to cross. I don't think men treat pre-ops as anything more than sex objects. Post ops are on a more level playing field with GGs. I didn't transition to remain a fetish for the rest of my life, so why would I trust a man who makes SRS a deal breaker? In fact, I don't think any man can predict how he'll adjust to his GF or wife having SRS. I think it's wishful thinking on their part, whether their intentions are good or not.

[Prospero]

Complicate emotional territory Nicole. I am sure you're right. The generalisations that go on here are so often rather depressing. In the realm of real life all kinds of possibilities exist. But experience can sometimes offer lessons its hard not to see as the norm.

[Yvonne183]

Sure of course i don't know. But do YOU? For goodness sake. You beleive you say - but you don't know. Such accusations don't do you justice.

You're just the same as everyone else on this forum, you grab one word in my post and zero in on that one word.

OK here we go, maybe for you, I'll try my best to make myself clearer.

The guys were peds, they talked about having sex with young people, they liked me cause I looked even younger than I did at my age. There you go, I am not going to go into any horrible details, I'm not going to do that. All i can say is that these guys who molested me were peds, if you don't want to believe then so be it.

Funny thing tough, when I did get to be an older teen and was more able to talk to these types of guys, they gave a similar explanation as you did in your first response to me.

[Prospero]

Fine Yvonne. I take hour word that you attracted some pretty creepy guys. I'm sorry to hear that. But I resent your implication that perhaps i am the same as those guys. That is a hugely cheap shot. If you want to see all men that way then i truly feel sorry for you.

[Yvonne183]

Fine Yvonne. I take hour word that you attracted some pretty creepy guys. I'm sorry to hear that. But I resent your implication that perhaps i am the same as those guys. That is a hugely cheap shot. If you want to see all men that way then i truly feel sorry for you.

It's not a cheap shot, they actually defended their position by giving the same reasons you did. most of them thought it was molesting when it occurred to babys. i can't help if you write the same thing they talk about, maybe it's a coincidence.

[EvonRose]

in defense to my ts sisters you cant really comment about the escorting thing, in life we do not have the same opportunities given to us than normal men and women, many of us take things in our own hands, many feel surgery, hormones, etc can be quite expensive so how do you pay for it when every job seems to discriminate or not hire you because it says male in your id or birth certificate? If you would truly care for a ts you would find a solution for her out not just if you want to be with me then you stop without and means of support, sorry but you cannot really understand this subject unless you are a ts yourself. I know from experience even tough my mom had me start of very young and i didn't need surgery to feminize myself i dabbled and still do in the fetish scene to provide for my school that eventually landed my real job( that seems to be the only way, education) And in no doubt in my mind i would one day want to settle down with a man and wake up and cook him breakfast, do his laundry, yell at him for stupid crap yes i would love to be in a marriage and actually give myself to him. And many ts do to! They probably just don't have a way or option outside the industry. a little understanding goes a long way and if you want a ts GF nothing says romantic more than understanding and honesty.