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    When you are launching a new site , exposure has ALOT to do with your initial success of signups ETC...Also if you do everything for everyone else so fast you dont leave alot of those "first" for your own personal site..That is my point!


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    Quote Originally Posted by WendyWilliams View Post
    When you are launching a new site , exposure has ALOT to do with your initial success of signups ETC...Also if you do everything for everyone else so fast you dont leave alot of those "first" for your own personal site..That is my point!
    Agreed. Models should try to control their content whenever possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WendyWilliams View Post
    When I started out an exclusive contract would be hurtful but now I dont see it has hurting them but honestly good for them (in beginning). A new girl can get her name out then stop working for other companies while launching her own site. Look at Kimber for example who doesnt work for anyone anymore and has one of the top financially profitable solo sites. Someone like Jonelle who is exclusive to SMC is not hurting by not working for another online company in the beginning. She will continue to get work for SMC sites, she is making money and being paid to do Member webcam shows for SMC sites, guys who want to see her because she is NEW and fresh will join her site now instead of other sites. Only small negative is exposure but she can optain that with a few DVD's out and her continued online presence via social networks. I DONT see it hurting online companies except those who want to shoot her. Jonelle is only an example because she is really a hard worker! Eventually down the line she might have to branch out but in the beginning I dont see the necessity for her to shoot for every online site and just focus on her site and her team.

    I think new models would be smart to think about not over exposing themselves in the first 6 months and build their own sites, camming, DvD appearances ETC
    Not all exposure is bad exposure Wendy and signing up to an exclusive contract in this day and age, when websites are making less and less, only makes sense to those holding the contract. Kimber & BJ are exceptions (and I don't believe they signed any contracts but chose to work only on select projects, something I'd advocate any model to do) in that they were internet stars before they had their websites.
    When a new model could make in her initial shoots, $10-$20k yet isn't able to do that because of a contract, it's unlikely that the same return will be made on her website profit simply because she hasn't done those shoots. Certainly in relatively untested models this is high risk and I would suggest any model look at the motivation and bigger picture behind anyone desperate enough to have to lock a model in exclusively - because it's not the models best interest they have at heart.

    Girls in this specific niche, with so few producers should pick and choose exactly which companies they want to work with, regardless of whether they are doing a solo site or not. I can't see you ever having stood for that, despite the fact it would have been more advantageous years ago, when there were less models.

    I agree with your second point but that being the choice of a model to make, not a contract.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BellaBellucci View Post
    Overexposure shouldn't be an issue as long as girls keep it fresh. People don't necessarily get sick of new models very quickly, but they do get sick of seeing them always looking the same and doing the same things repeatedly. The way to stay relevant is to have depth, not to artificially slow your own career progression. Just look at Tiffany Starr. How many shoots has she done so far? Maybe 10? And she looks completely different in each? It all comes back to the quantity/quality ratio. If you can keep up the latter, the former becomes less of an issue.

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    Overexposure can still happen even if the girl keeps it fresh. I don't know if I am the minority, but I get tired of seeing the same girl doing the same thing, the only thing that is different is her look. I think sometimes when a new girl comes out, the consumer gets bombarded with so many shoots of the new girl. Whether the shoot is on Shemale Yum, then Shemale Domination, then T-Girl Pinups, then repeat. I notice that some guys like it when they haven't seen a girl in a long time and they pay more attention to her than someone who we already seen a dozen times in other sites.


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    Oh I def. agree that each model has diff circumstances and all should put all their options on the table before deciding or signing a contract. However if a model can make that same type of money with a contract by doing other shoots within the network, paid at home cam shows, ETC then she isnt really hurting in the long run. HOWEVER not every girl has those options or not all have a "star" factor to do so.

    I dont think companies are "desperate" when they sign models as it happens outside of the TS market all the time. If that model can make "x" amount of money outside of her website within a company because of her contract then no need to shoot for others as her income is being padded with her website and that is what an EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT is there to do.

    I would never tell a girl to sign a contract if that contract has no incentives outside of her website that would financially be bad for the girl!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bte View Post
    Overexposure can still happen even if the girl keeps it fresh.
    Oh, of course you're right, but it really depends on the girl. Some need the extra boost and some are just natural draws. I think it's subjective, but to say that a model should necessarily underexposure herself for a certain period of time seems generalized and arbitrary.

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    I think that since I have not been on a lot of sites or any dvds that it might help launch of my site! Plus i am trying to make scenes a lot different on my site, and giving options on my solo site. I was told when I come into this industry to not over expose yourself. But of course I think like any model we want to work more in this business. But, now that I am further into it and getting closer to my site launch that I am glad for the outcome of everything. And considering I will own all my content.

    Porn can be boring if you watch it so much too! I personally hate story lines when I watch porn.... i fast forward all that! Its too cheezy! Unless its real like reality I dont think its good! So I am trying to do more reality base intros to my scenes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WendyWilliams View Post
    Oh I def. agree that each model has diff circumstances and all should put all their options on the table before deciding or signing a contract. However if a model can make that same type of money with a contract by doing other shoots within the network, paid at home cam shows, ETC then she isnt really hurting in the long run. HOWEVER not every girl has those options or not all have a "star" factor to do so.

    I dont think companies are "desperate" when they sign models as it happens outside of the TS market all the time. If that model can make "x" amount of money outside of her website within a company because of her contract then no need to shoot for others as her income is being padded with her website and that is what an EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT is there to do.

    I would never tell a girl to sign a contract if that contract has no incentives outside of her website that would financially be bad for the girl!
    I think they're probably fairly desperate Wendy and probably reflecting losing market share, which is why they wouldn't lock her in to a contract to benefit the models own site but to prevent her from working on sites competitive to their other network sites and income. As I said earlier, I sincerely doubt that by being in such a contract it would reflect in monetary gain for her being exclusive over working and making straight up model payments for the sites or companies she selects. This is why a contract favours the company and harms the model.

    I think you have far more integrity to suggest a model to something financially bad for herself, than unfortunately, others do.

    As a business, it's "possibly" a good idea but unless they're offering that model $20,000-$30,000 a year on top of her website split, on top of the cam split and on top of shoots she's getting paid to do for other sites on that network, then they are hurting her finances.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TSMichelleAustin View Post
    I think that since I have not been on a lot of sites or any dvds that it might help launch of my site! Plus i am trying to make scenes a lot different on my site, and giving options on my solo site. I was told when I come into this industry to not over expose yourself. But of course I think like any model we want to work more in this business. But, now that I am further into it and getting closer to my site launch that I am glad for the outcome of everything. And considering I will own all my content.
    Essentially what you are doing Michelle, is locking YOURSELF into the same sort of contract that someone like KJ or BJ has done, decided to limit your exposure and own all your own content, while still giving yourself the opportunity to work in other projects is something fun came along.

    How close to your site launch?



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Essentially what you are doing Michelle, is locking YOURSELF into the same sort of contract that someone like KJ or BJ has done, decided to limit your exposure and own all your own content, while still giving yourself the opportunity to work in other projects is something fun came along.

    How close to your site launch?
    Well I purposely haven't locked myself there... the industry has per say but I am not mad about it now! We are close to launch, when site is done designed which I am assuming any day now, the content is all up! LOL! I am excited and its looking amazing!



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