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    Smart woman.



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    She makes valid points about regulation, but this is going to be one of the key mantras of the next election, given the hostility that Republicans have expressed to the regulatory agencies in the US and what they do. I have seen I think a proposal to scrap the EPA. However, that puts the weight back on Ms Warren, because it is not always the principle of regulation that matters, but the process whereby they are applied, and the regulations themselves: the EPA is not a large part of US govt and it doesn't have a huge budget, but it can affect businesses large and small and has a right of interference which leads some to characterise this as 'back-door socialism'. That doesn't mean the regulations -many of which protect the public from a business dumping its waste on their lawn, for example- should not be there. But it does mean that what should be an informed debate about what does and doesn't work will become an either/or option. But why does she want to be an elected official? There are other ways of being influential, and she seems to have done well at that. Is it because she has a law degree?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    She makes valid points about regulation, but this is going to be one of the key mantras of the next election, given the hostility that Republicans have expressed to the regulatory agencies in the US and what they do. I have seen I think a proposal to scrap the EPA. However, that puts the weight back on Ms Warren, because it is not always the principle of regulation that matters, but the process whereby they are applied, and the regulations themselves: the EPA is not a large part of US govt and it doesn't have a huge budget, but it can affect businesses large and small and has a right of interference which leads some to characterise this as 'back-door socialism'. That doesn't mean the regulations -many of which protect the public from a business dumping its waste on their lawn, for example- should not be there. But it does mean that what should be an informed debate about what does and doesn't work will become an either/or option. But why does she want to be an elected official? There are other ways of being influential, and she seems to have done well at that. Is it because she has a law degree?
    I think Liz Warren wants to be an elected official to actually serve the public interest.
    I mean, she has articulated that the middle class have gotten hammered over the last 30 years. (Now if you look at the income gains in America, well, it's the TOP 0.01 percent of the population who've made staggering gains.)
    We live in cynical times. So, we assume all politicians are out to serve their own [rational] interests and the interests of their corporate buddies.
    I, actually, think that Liz Warren is different. She does have moral fiber. And is principled. A rarity in Washington -- ha ha!
    Imagine a moral and principled politician. And NOT a politician out to simply serve their own selfish interests and the interests of concentrated capital.



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    Good old Glenn -- ha ha ha! The guy is a genius. He's crazy. But he's a comic genius:




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    I've seen him do satire against Washinton Post Lib weenie Joe Klien, and it was pretty funny. The scary thing is people like her are actually running the country now. I'm too tired to look at her bio, but I'd bet a month's haitus from this place she was either a progressive professor at a liberal university, sucking off rich bussiness owner's kids tuition, or has sucked off the rich people she so despises by way of a titty government job....or some combinatio of both. I will guarante you she has never put her last dollar into her struggling bussiness.
    I just hope we can make it to 2012.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I think Liz Warren wants to be an elected official to actually serve the public interest.
    I mean, she has articulated that the middle class have gotten hammered over the last 30 years. (Now if you look at the income gains in America, well, it's the TOP 0.01 percent of the population who've made staggering gains.)
    We live in cynical times. So, we assume all politicians are out to serve their own [rational] interests and the interests of their corporate buddies.
    I, actually, think that Liz Warren is different. She does have moral fiber. And is principled. A rarity in Washington -- ha ha!
    Imagine a moral and principled politician. And NOT a politician out to simply serve their own selfish interests and the interests of concentrated capital.

    Ben...I don't question her motives...in fact I don't care about her motives. I know some rogue cops who entered the police force to "help people". it's her ideology and philosophy that scares me. Hey Jimmy Carter's motives were as pure as snow, but he too was a disaster. You have to have pragmatic policies that work. Not a view of America that there are 2 types of people....the oppressed and their rich oppressors. Me being affluent because I made a business work, has the nothing to do with you being poorly educated, poorly motivated and aimless. Those are mutually exclusive of one another. She's another one that should stay in the cozy confines of her faculty lounge talking about theories.



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    Lizzie Warren took an ax
    gave the bankers 40 whacks
    when she saw what she had done
    she gave the traders 41


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