Passports - and a question to the girls

[Prospero]

The British government is now considering allowed transgendered people to register as neither male or female. (The Australians already stole a march on them!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/se...free-passports

I wondered if the girls here who travel widely internationally have any problems with passport control? Do you travel on male or female passport

[hunkystudcal]

Its about time the UK government got their act together, but I doubt it will become law.

[TsJizelle]

I have only ever traveled to the states and my passport still says male. In the province of Ontario you are required to have SRS in order to change your birth certificate's sex which your passport's gender marker is determined on, however you can change the gender marker on your driver's license accompanied with a doctor's note. Basically detailing "she's a girl, but she's got a dick. give her some peace at mind and help her out. that's what Canadians do for the rest of the world right??"

Anytime I go to the states I get pulled aside and questioned, bag torn apart, the whole night yards. One guy said "you know that your passport says you're a guy right?" but....you look like a chick"... wow...I applaud your attentiveness Mr. Customs..good looking out for the criminal in the line!

I always get through ...eventually. They see I'm a nice girl with no criminal record, I tend to just bat my big eyes at them and all is ok, just why the hassle guys really? All I want to do is come spend my hard earned Canadian dollars in your country!!!

[Silcc69]

I have only ever traveled to the states and my passport still says male. In the province of Ontario you are required to have SRS in order to change your birth certificate's sex which your passport's gender marker is determined on, however you can change the gender marker on your driver's license accompanied with a doctor's note. Basically detailing "she's a girl, but she's got a dick. give her some peace at mind and help her out. that's what Canadians do for the rest of the world right??"

Anytime I go to the states I get pulled aside and questioned, bag torn apart, the whole night yards. One guy said "you know that your passport says you're a guy right?" but....you look like a chick"... wow...I applaud your attentiveness Mr. Customs..good looking out for the criminal in the line!

I always get through ...eventually. They see I'm a nice girl with no criminal record, I tend to just bat my big eyes at them and all is ok, just why the hassle guys really? All I want to do is come spend my hard earned Canadian dollars in your country!!!

Because they enjoy being dicks.

[Jericho]

Its about time the UK government got their act together, but I doubt it will become law.

Damn, that's some funny shit right here!

[SammiValentine]

ummm we can get "female" passports anyway in UK (even pre-op) as long as you tick the boxes (e.g 2 or 3 years fulltime, and your GP/doctor/or psychologist providing a letter stating you are full time and that in their professional opinion that one will not revert to living as a fella). so to sum it up- fuck off cameron / clegg and do something useful. thanks xx id much rather a female passport than a "Look at me am fucking different hohoho passport"

Gets more complicated with changing birth certificates or a GRC but who gives a toss as long as my passport and drivers have an F on them I am happy.

[RainMan]

I have only ever traveled to the states and my passport still says male. In the province of Ontario you are required to have SRS in order to change your birth certificate's sex which your passport's gender marker is determined on, however you can change the gender marker on your driver's license accompanied with a doctor's note. Basically detailing "she's a girl, but she's got a dick. give her some peace at mind and help her out. that's what Canadians do for the rest of the world right??"

Anytime I go to the states I get pulled aside and questioned, bag torn apart, the whole night yards. One guy said "you know that your passport says you're a guy right?" but....you look like a chick"... wow...I applaud your attentiveness Mr. Customs..good looking out for the criminal in the line!

I always get through ...eventually. They see I'm a nice girl with no criminal record, I tend to just bat my big eyes at them and all is ok, just why the hassle guys really? All I want to do is come spend my hard earned Canadian dollars in your country!!!

Canadiens have to go through customs? I didn't even know people watched the north border like that lmao

[TsJizelle]

Canadiens have to go through customs? I didn't even know people watched the north border like that lmao

supposedly after 9/11 there was speculation that they came through Canada...I've seen people be denied entry to the States from Canada.

[RainMan]

supposedly after 9/11 there was speculation that they came through Canada...I've seen people be denied entry to the States from Canada.

I saw a border check point on tv once somewhere up north it was just a little shack with a 3 foot fence, never been to canada but all ways thought Canada was a more relaxed america, guess you canadiens are a dangerous bunch lol jk

[Stavros]

I think Sammi's point is the key one: what is it that the girls themselves want? And as she says, its F in the passport; rather than the creation of a 'special' category. In addition, this would make it easier for some states to refuse entry, as they could issue guidelines saying 'We only allow entry to Male and Female Passport holders' -whereas now I guess they have to look at the person when they arrive at immigration and make an on the spot decision. Creating a TG passport seems to me to have more serious and negative consequences than it does at the moment.