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    Default Re: 50 new exoplanets discovered

    ... tsk tsk tsk ...
    You eggheads are always trying to convince us normals that there's something beyond our 3 senses. What's next? Gonna try & tell everybody that the earth is round again? Everybody knows it's a flat disk, held up by 5 giant elephants, who are standing on the back of an even bigger turtle.
    ... tsk tsk tsk ...


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    Default Re: 50 new exoplanets discovered

    You only have 3 senses, Hippifried? Your voyage of self-discovery has yet to begin, I feel...



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    Default Re: 50 new exoplanets discovered

    Quote Originally Posted by muh_muh View Post
    life like everything else in physics is lazy so its massively unlikely for life to form that isnt based around the same chemistry as ours:

    A very persuasive argument from Dr Tyson, muh_muh, but it still might also be possible for lifeforms to exist where there are liquid hydrocarbons instead of liquid water. Like on Saturn's moon Titan, which has a weather system based on methane (which also consists of two of the most abundant elements - carbon and hydrogen) in solid, liquid and gaseous forms.



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    Default Re: 50 new exoplanets discovered

    I have a photo sense. I have a chemical sense. Then I have a touch sense that allows me to discern heat, viscosity, & motion. Smell & taste are the same sense. Hearing is a touch sense, where you feel the vibrations in the surrounding medium.


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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    namely it doesn't interact with anything except through its inertia (i.e. gravitational effects).
    considering how little we know about dark matter other than (very) roughly how its distributed i dont think theres any reason why it shouldnt be perfectly viable that dark matter might be as diverse as normal or (considering the numbers involved) abnormal matter and perfectly capable of interacting with itself and existing in a sort of parallel universe within our universe

    also i think youve just described a large part of geek culture which is arguably inhabited by people who are alive

    other than that assuming dark matter is utterly boring the same logic applies to dark matter and helium

    Quote Originally Posted by traLika View Post
    A very persuasive argument from Dr Tyson, muh_muh, but it still might also be possible for lifeforms to exist where there are liquid hydrocarbons instead of liquid water. Like on Saturn's moon Titan, which has a weather system based on methane (which also consists of two of the most abundant elements - carbon and hydrogen) in solid, liquid and gaseous forms.
    good point
    on the other hand the only chemistry that we have solid proof of being capable of spontaneously producing life based on those elements is ours so its probably not a bad choice to search for those primarily

    btw another important aspect in searching for life is searching for planets with atmospheres that have illogically low levels of entropy
    eg ours has a fairly large amount of oxygen in it which cannot possibly exist in an atmosphere without constant repruduction through something



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    Default Re: 50 new exoplanets discovered

    btw another important aspect in searching for life is searching for planets with atmospheres that have illogically low levels of entropy
    Excellent observation. If you aren't already familiar with it, you and the others here may be interested in Eric D. Schneider and Dorion Sagan's book, Into The Cool: Energy Flow, Thermodynamics and Life. I ran across it in a book store a few years ago and was enthralled by it.


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    Default Re: 50 new exoplanets discovered

    Are there pictures?


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