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09-15-2011 #11
Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
Originally Posted by tjinla2001
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09-15-2011 #12
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Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
So let me get this straight. You're saying the deficit is not a problem? Did you notice the recent downgrade?
You really think that spending future tax monies...on bullshit temporary jobs is the key to a recovery?
Seriously?
When you fire a teacher you lessen the tax burden on J6P.
"You do know that the deficit is largely due to interest due on our war debt?"
Do a search on how much money the Nobel Peace Prize winner has spent since he's been in office.
"We are not broke".
Really.
We're currently paying out more than we take in.
You're solution is to go hit the productive people in society up for another loan? That sucks money right out of GDP.
News flash, when you're in debt, and you can't find anyone to buy up your future debt, you don't go down to the bank and ask for a credit increase.
"The world still buys and trust the American dollar. China trusts the dollar."
Oh Really? Who's been the biggest buyer of t-bonds in the last 2 years?
" The more we spend on jobs now, the quicker we'll recover and the stronger we'll be for it."
So much goddamned stupid in that one sentence...it's shocking.
"We", I guess you mean the taxpayer, should not have to SPEND a single fucking penny to create jobs. Apparently, this little tidbit of reality escapes you
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09-15-2011 #13
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Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
When you fire a teacher you lessen the tax burden on J6P.
You're solution is to go hit the productive people in society up for another loan?
You've only argued that the deficit is a problem. I agree, it is. But it is not the most immediate problem. The dollar is highly valued all around the world. The S&P lowered our rating not because its value is dropping or because we run a deficit. It wasn't even lowered because the Tea Bagging Party is playing obstructionist politics and blocking all avenues to true recovery. It was lowered because the Tea Bagger obstructionism increased the likelihood that the U.S. would default payment on its debt.
News flash. EVERY SUCCESSFUL CORPORATION IN THE WORLD RUNS A DEBT, INDEED, A DEFICIT TOO. That's no big deal as long as your creditors are happy and aren't threatening foreclosure. A corporation will of course want eventually to reduce deficits but to reduce them [too] soon at the expense of making expansions that will secure market share is not a wise use of borrowed money. The whole system of credit is essential to the world economy. It effectively doubles the money available in the system. If every person and every corporation and every nation paid up front in cash for every transaction the world economy would collapse in a day.
"We", I guess you mean the taxpayer, should not have to SPEND a single fucking penny to create jobs. Apparently, this little tidbit of reality escapes you
Last edited by trish; 09-16-2011 at 12:22 AM. Reason: [edit because everyone's reading it twice now! edits in square brackets]
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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09-15-2011 #14
Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
You may want to modify that statement. I have run a successful corporation for 20 years and we have NEVER run a deficit. We have never used our line of credit. Its called responsible management, and living within ones means. Works great in personal life, business and whoa guess what.. government.
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09-15-2011 #15
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Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
You[] tell me your business is successful but you also tell me there's a time traveling Jesus. I simply can[not] trust anything that you say that can't be independently assessed. Care to give us the name and location of your business and access to the books?
In a forum where you are anonymous, you cannot use personal anecdotes as evidence for general claims. Evidence must be public and available for all to judge and assess. You have decided, like many of us, to isolate your personal life and business keeping it unavailable to us. Any argument you offer for a general claim cannot validly be substantiated by evidence you've chosen to keep to yourself. For all we know, you have no business, or your business is failing, or your business is doing just fine but like most you have debts and creditors, or that you had debts and creditors in the beginning. We can only judge the veracity of the "evidence" offered by the veracity of other claims you made in the past which are public and can be independently judged and assessed. When it comes to the veracity of past claims, you don't do so well.
Last edited by trish; 09-16-2011 at 12:04 AM. Reason: [edits in square brackets]
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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09-15-2011 #16
Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
The kids are laughing cause the kids put doggy-doo on the seat where Obama is sitting.
I'm the girl nobody knows until she commits suicide.
Then suddenly everyone knew me.
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09-15-2011 #17
Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
I suppose there's a simple answer to the original post. It's because he's black.
But pleasures are like poppies spread
You seize the flow'r, the bloom is shed
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09-15-2011 #18
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09-15-2011 #19
Re: The REAL reason Tea Baggers Hate Obama!!
There is an insanity and a forgetting at work in the mind of the right. For a start the dreadful economic mess we are in is hardly the fault of teachers and ordinary working people. It is, in large part, the legacy of the idiots who ran the white house and the nation and the West for the past two presidencies... crazy wars which are costing trillions.... and the bankers who have gambled with ordinary people's money, their political chums who de-regulated to allow the catastrophe to happen. And now the silly tea bag folks bray about the evil being big government. They'll soon enough see what evil is really about if things carry on as they are. Obama was hobbled from day one by the mess that Bush and his chums created.
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09-15-2011 #20
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