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    I'm not posting this in defense of Bush, who I largely find indefensible. If we did attack based on intelligence received from Packistani Intelligence Services, then this was probably a setup. Packistani Intelligence is friendlier towards Al-Qaeda and the Taliban than they are to their own government or any supporters of the US. I saw an article on a Sunday morning news program that reiterated this very thing.

    If this village was anti-taliban and anti- Al-Qaeda, then it is entirely likely that the PIS fed bad information to punish the village while making the US look bad at the same time.

    I find this theory easier to believe than the theory that Iraqis will welcome the United States as liberators.



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    Go C.I. A., Never stop going after those bastards. They would kill you liberal pussies in an INSTANT.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaddy
    Go C.I. A., Never stop going after those bastards. They would kill you liberal pussies in an INSTANT.

    Your pathetic man, "go cia" you sound like a damn cheerleader, you seem like the kind of pathetic loser that would kill innocent women and children.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaddy
    Go C.I. A., Never stop going after those bastards. They would kill you liberal pussies in an INSTANT.
    You're either in serious need of therapy, or a troll.

    Either way, you deserve to be banned. Applauding the death of four innocent children? Let's not ignore why he's so happy: It's because they're brown.



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    The CIA doesn't operate inside the US, so I guess we liberal pussies are safe from them for now. That job would fall to the FBI. Fortunately they are more concerned headshops and pornography, especially in Florida, than with suppressing legitimate political discussion.

    We know he likes porn, he's from Florida and he posts as if he were on drgus, so if anyone should worry about that knock at the door, it should be Yourdaddy.

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    Agreed that the loss of children lives is a terrible thing. But the woman you have to stand back and not pass judgement. Just because they are Muslim doesnt mean that women are not an intrical part of Terrorism.u 3 Car bombings in Iraq where carried off by groups that included women. So there were 18 people and 4 were children. So how does that make the rest of them automatically innocent.

    Remember that Saddam Hussein and other Dictators surround themselves with innocents to use them as Human shields. So who is worse... the entity that tries to take out the bad guy and some innocent people get hurt but they were not the target... or the Bad guy that purposely puts children in front... to protect them from harm, to use them as Shields.. figuring that a) no one will shoot becuase they are surrounded by kids... or b) that the kids will get hit and shield them.

    So who is the real bad guy??

    Again.. i agree that it is awful that the kids were killed in this. But unfortuantely.. it does happen. How many kids were killed during the Blitzkreig on Britain.. as bombs dropped?.. or how many were killed in Hiroshima... or how many were killed in Vietnam... etc... War is a Dirty Dirty Dirty awful business, and no one ever WINS... but war is necessary to limit one's losses.



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    Quote Originally Posted by samstl99
    Agreed that the loss of children lives is a terrible thing. But the woman you have to stand back and not pass judgement. Just because they are Muslim doesnt mean that women are not an intrical part of Terrorism.u 3 Car bombings in Iraq where carried off by groups that included women. So there were 18 people and 4 were children. So how does that make the rest of them automatically innocent.

    Remember that Saddam Hussein and other Dictators surround themselves with innocents to use them as Human shields. So who is worse... the entity that tries to take out the bad guy and some innocent people get hurt but they were not the target... or the Bad guy that purposely puts children in front... to protect them from harm, to use them as Shields.. figuring that a) no one will shoot becuase they are surrounded by kids... or b) that the kids will get hit and shield them.

    So who is the real bad guy??

    Again.. i agree that it is awful that the kids were killed in this. But unfortuantely.. it does happen. How many kids were killed during the Blitzkreig on Britain.. as bombs dropped?.. or how many were killed in Hiroshima... or how many were killed in Vietnam... etc... War is a Dirty Dirty Dirty awful business, and no one ever WINS... but war is necessary to limit one's losses.
    Sam please stfu they weren't even looking for a women they were looking for a damn old man who wasn't even there. You fuckers would do anything to kill one guy like bomb hundreds of villages. You sound like the typical war buff win by any means necessary.

    Dude this isn't 1940 so you can't compare those wars to this shit.



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    Did you read the article? The people weren't terrorists, or soldiers. They were jewelers and shopkeepers. They weren't harboring anyone.

    The real bad guy in the Blitzkrieg was Hitler. For Hiroshima, Truman, For Vietnam, Nixon, mostly. For this tragedy.... Somehow I don't think the buck for this will stop at Bush's desk. but it should.


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    You all have my posts wrong. I think it is awful that the innocent lives were lost. But you have to actually READ what is being said.

    First off Do you actually believe Everything you read? If all reports that were given to the papers were 100% accurate then Osama would be a hero and there would be supposedly no wrong in the world except of course the US governement. You have to remember that EVERY periodical has an agenda that they write to.

    Now reading the article, if you read it carefully, the room that was targeted was room that is used to meet with guests. And it is in an area that has no law, and has historically been run by people in the Opium buisness. Sound familar? The Taliban were the controllers of all Opium in the region. Yes they did not find anyone that was a known forgeigner, however they never said that they were not Nationals that were sympathetic to Al-Queada. Of course the villagers will say that no one was there.. (the same things were told to US Investigators during Vietnam... and yet many men died because women, children, and villagers opened fire on them). The history of the area has to be taken into consideration.

    You forgot to talk about this quote.

    One Pakistani official, speaking anonymously, told The Observer that hours before the strike some unidentified guests had arrived at one home and that some bodies had been removed quickly after the attack.

    This coming from the government that is upset at the attack. So I guess you just want to believe what you want out of the story.

    Obviously there were "eyes" on the ground. Meaning there were operatives at the Village that confirmed "Forgeigners" Seeing as this is such a remote place, visotors isnt a common thing. And it appears that the area was being watched for several days so a Rash decision was not made.

    All I am saying is look past the obvious and read into what was published.. and what was referenced but not clarified.. and also what was NOT published. Keep an open mind THEN make your decisions.

    Again, I think innocent lives being lost is a terrible thing. Dont assume, just because a Free World Newspaper reports how innocent everyone was, that everything is as they say it was.



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    samstl99:

    You are such a hypocrite. Let's take another scenario - an attack by Iran on the United States. They blow up a strip mall in Alabama because they had information that US Soldiers would be there. They weren't, but there were about 12 women and 5 children there who were killed.

    Would you say "Well, I regret that the children were killed, but the women could have been married to a soldier, so we can't pass judgement on the Iranians because they are not necessarily innocent."

    Oh yeah, smart guy, human shields exist. But they weren't used in this case (and Saddam Hussein wasn't using themagains the Americans either.)
    Does the fact that some people have use "human shields" now justify the slaughter of innocent women and children because they "might" be a human shield.

    This is the attitude of an inhuman monster. You should be ashamed of yourself.



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