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    Marjorie Taylor Greene Is A Nice Lady Platinum Poster Dino Velvet's Avatar
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    http://news.yahoo.com/nod-ibm-hp-ove...000737736.html

    In nod to IBM, HP overhaul minimizes consumers

    By JORDAN ROBERTSON - AP Technology Writer | AP – 4 hrs ago





    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Hewlett-Packard's decision to surrender in smartphones and tablet computers and possibly get rid of its personal computer business underscores how Apple has transformed consumer electronics in just four years.
    HP's new CEO Leo Apotheker is now trying to turn the Silicon Valley stalwart into a twin of East Coast archrival IBM Corp. In doing so, he is acknowledging that his company has failed to balance the demands of both the consumer and corporate markets. As a result, it needs to exit most of its consumer businesses, just as IBM did six years ago.
    Apple is the hottest consumer electronics company on the planet. The iPhone's debut in 2007 brought ease of use and an intuitive design unmatched by predecessors, including smartphone pioneer Palm, which HP bought last year in hopes of getting a foothold in mobile devices. Apple followed in 2010 with the iPad tablet computer and managed to persuade people to buy a product they never knew they needed.
    Rather than remain locked in a futile fight with a company that seems to have found the magic touch on making hit consumer products, HP is whittling its competition to the other business technology specialists — namely, IBM, Oracle Corp. and Cisco Systems Inc.
    "Apple singlehandedly knocked HP out of the PC, smartphone and tablet business," Gleacher & Co. analyst Brian Marshall said in an interview.
    HP's overhaul, announced Thursday, has three parts:
    — HP will stop making tablet computers and smartphones by October.
    — It will try to spin off or sell its PC business, the world's largest. By the end of next year, HP computers could be sold under another company's name.
    — The company plans to buy business software maker Autonomy Corp. for about $10 billion in one of the biggest takeovers in HP's 72-year history. That would expand HP's software and services offerings, where IBM is strong.
    HP, the largest technology company in the world by revenue, will continue to sell servers and other equipment to business customers, just as IBM now does. Those businesses currently don't generate as much revenue for HP as PCs, but they have higher profit margins.
    Apotheker would not say whether any jobs will be cut. HP plans to take a charge of about $1 billion for restructuring and related costs, some of which could go for severance payments. HP employs more than 300,000 people worldwide.
    HP's move toward an IBM-style business model, which is focused on selling to corporations and governments, makes sense considering that Apotheker spent most of his career at German business software maker SAP AG, another company that catered to the technology needs of companies and government agencies.
    "This is his bread and butter," Marshall said. "Now he has to deliver."
    Investors appeared underwhelmed and sent HP's stock down 6 percent Thursday on a day the broader market declined, with the Standard & Poor's 500 index falling 4.5 percent. In morning trading Friday, HP lost another 20 percent, or $5.81, to $23.70.
    Apotheker is seeking radical changes to help erase the stain of scandal and leave his imprint on a massive company he inherited last year. His predecessor, Mark Hurd, resigned under pressure a year ago, after an investigation found expense reports that were allegedly falsified to conceal a relationship with an HP marketing contractor.
    In trying to ditch most of HP's consumer businesses, Apotheker is reversing a decade-long binge on computer hardware.
    The area where HP has been most visibly lacking is mobile devices.
    HP has been hopelessly outmatched in smartphones and tablets despite its $1.8 billion acquisition last year of Palm Inc., whose webOS software was the crown jewel of the deal. The software powered the fledgling TouchPad tablet and HP-powered smartphones that are being discontinued in Thursday's announcement.
    The software was well-reviewed, but iPhones and iPads and smartphones running Google Inc.'s Android operating system — made possible after Apple paved the way — have dominated the fastest-growing parts of the consumer technology market. HP was left in the margins. WebOS smartphones had a worldwide market share of less than 1 percent, according to Gartner.
    HP will try to find ways to keep webOS alive, which could include using it in other devices such as PCs and printers or licensing it to handset makers, Apotheker said in an interview. He said he was disappointed with the designs of HP's mobile devices and believed the business would have required too much money to turn around.
    "We have better opportunities to invest our capital," he said.
    HP executives likely decided that "they were too late to the tablet market to make a dent," said Forrester Research analyst Charles Golvin. "They recognized they did not have a high probability of success."
    HP conceivably could try to license webOS for use in cars and consumer electronics devices made by other companies, Golvin said. But even that is challenging because Google is targeting many of the same markets with its Android system, which is free.
    "This begs the question of how much longer it will be before the other shoe drops and they close the Palm business entirely," Golvin said.
    The diminishing of the Palm business will be striking to many technologists.
    Jon Rubinstein, the former CEO of Palm, said in December that Palm sold itself because executives realized the business could be small and successful, but couldn't sustain itself on its own in the long run.
    Rubinstein, who was an Apple executive before leading Palm, said HP seemed to be the best choice because, given its size, it could help Palm bring its products to more people.
    In PCs, HP is acknowledging that it needs to reverse course on a path begun two CEOs ago, under Carly Fiorina. She pushed through the controversial decision to spend $19 billion for Compaq Computer. That set the stage for HP's ascent to become the world's top PC maker.
    PCs are HP's biggest revenue generator, but the business is also HP's least profitable, a result of falling prices for computers and brutal competition.
    HP's effort to jettison its PC business is another concession to Apple's increasing dominance of consumer electronics, said Shaw Wu, an analyst with Sterne Agee. The PC division also had become a drag on HP's stock even though it still accounts for about 15 percent of the company's earnings, Wu said.
    "Apple is such a fierce competitor that HP probably realized it was going to have to cut its losses," Wu said. "And it makes sense to cut your losses sooner than later."
    The decision also makes HP's trajectory look similar to rival IBM's. A key player in building the PC market in the 1980s, IBM sold its PC business in 2005 to focus on software and services, which don't cost as much in labor and components as building computer hardware.
    The acquisition of Autonomy mirrors a key element of IBM's transformation from stodgy mainframe seller into a software and services powerhouse, which has made IBM the envy of many large technology companies.
    HP's net income increased in the fiscal third quarter, which ended July 31, but its lower-than-expected outlook for the current period weighed on the stock. The company, which is based in Palo Alto, Calif., also cut its full-year revenue outlook.
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    AP Technology Writers Michael Liedtke and Rachel Metz in San Francisco and Barbara Ortutay in New York contributed to this report.



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    Some things of note here. IBM dumped the consumer pc line on China's Lenovo around '07 figuring next gen cloud computing was around the corner. Lenovo seemed to get the drift that the PC market was getting ready to tank about 2 years ago and started to divest itself of manufacturing assets and put them into real estate. Carly got HP into a pickle with Compac and put the real money maker of the company on the back burner and rebranded it Agilent. Smart move along with hiring PI's to rat out her board members. Now Apotheker is about to make the same move that almost burried Motorola and GE and killed RCA by withdrawing from the consumer and small business market in favor of municipal, large corporate, and goverment bid contracts during a time when tax dollars can't even sustain current operating costs and corporate buyers are holding back and tightening their belts for the lean times. Bill and Dave are probably spinning like tops in their graves.

    Bad news for Microsoft. We're past PC now and OS market share doesn't really matter anymore in the cloud. No longer a need for speed with everything server side, so Intel and AMD take a hit too. Google eats Moto's Mobility sector and Job's now is going to have conceptual competition...maybe good.

    Life in the cloud is going to get interesting when the governments finally get keys to the shut down switch. Think DRM sucks? How about Virtual DRM?

    Things can also go "Poof" into a "Cloud" of smoke...especially if they try to blow it up your ass



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    Either way I seriously hope that this wont be too painful for the new HP fucking 1500.00 laptop I just bought if it breaks and I have to go through the 4 year warranty I have :/


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    What happened to the Dell dude? Did he get shot?






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    The Dell guy caught buying weed and was dropped by Dell immediately thereafter.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nashvegas View Post
    The Dell guy caught buying weed and was dropped by Dell immediately thereafter.
    Yea that was a tough call huh.....him buying weed.........yep.......


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    Dino....I'm worried about you worrying about shit like this bro !!!!!!! lol



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    Good as a card carrying member of the Ted Kaczynski fan club im thrilled with this news!

    HP was most likely part of Cyberdyne Systems anyways.




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    HP CEO Carly Fiorina buying Compaq was probably the worst executive decision since the Time Warner- AOL merger. And the bitch is always on TV being treated like she's an expert and global economics. People in business never seem to have to answer for monumental blunders they make. Instead, they're rewarded with better jobs and more financial compensation.

    Robert Rubin of Citicorp and Jeff Immelt of GE are two other bozos who have totally wiped out shareholder value during their tenure, yet they're invited to lunch at the White House to advise the president on fixing the economy and creating jobs.
    After Obama's election victory he was actually considering re-hiring Rubin as Treasury Secretary before someone told the Prez that the guy was a high priced pimp selling crappy sub-prime mortgage backed securities to unsuspecting state pension funds.
    fucking joke



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    Default Re: HP To Stop Making Computers?

    Quote Originally Posted by onmyknees View Post
    Dino....I'm worried about you worrying about shit like this bro !!!!!!! lol
    Dude, I got a Dell. No worrying here.



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