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    America is so far removed from socialist system that they might as well be in a different world
    Well, as I previously pointed out, it's socialism for the rich and free enterprise for everyone else. The libertarian Lew Rockwell (he has his own site: http://lewrockwell.com/) has pointed out: All the big banks in America are Zombie banks. They're bankrupt.
    But we, the American taxpayers, keep propping them up. That's just absolute theft and pure corruption to the bone. (The way a capitalist system is supposed to work is quite simple: when the lender lends he or she assumes the risk and if they lose, well, they take that loss. The private losses of the banks have been transferred to the men and women [the taxpayers] of America. It's criminal. It's corruption. It's fascism. It's fascism the way Mussolini coined the term. A nexus, or link, between corporations and government.)
    Ron Paul has said he would let these banks fail. Because he knows they're bankrupt and that we taxpayers keep propping them up. Year after year after year.
    Ron Paul also pointed out that America has, well, a sort of soft fascism. Whereby big business and government have a close and cozy relationship. They're in bed together. Well, they're married and their marriage is doing quite well -- ha ha ha!




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    A right-wing perspective:




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    This is nauseating:




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    so lemme see he wants to get rid of the department of commerce without even knowing what it does and he wants to also get rid of free education
    i think theres a correlation there somewhere



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    Quote Originally Posted by muh_muh View Post
    so lemme see he wants to get rid of the department of commerce without even knowing what it does and he wants to also get rid of free education
    i think theres a correlation there somewhere
    He sounds fairly young. And, well, one gets caught up, as it were, in a libertarian paradise... without thinking it through. (A few years ago I was a libertarian. Thinking: yes!, this could work -- ha ha!)
    Here is Noam Chomsky explaining how the Internet came out of the PUBLIC sector. Ya know, the risks, the ideas and the costs came out of the public sector. (Places like M.I.T. and the University of Chicago.) And then handed over to the private sector. (That isn't free market capitalism.) And the same is true with respect to TV, radio, lasers etc., etc. The initial investment comes from government. As well as the ideas, the risks. (I mean, it wasn't Bill Gates who put up the initial capital for computers and the Internet. But Chomsky is a bit harsh in calling Bill Gates a parasite.)
    So, we have to be honest about where the initial investment came from with respect to computers and the Net. It wasn't Gates and Steve Jobs that threw all their money into the research and development and then reaped the rewards. The INITIAL CAPITAL came from the broader public. This is how state-capitalism/a semi-market system works... and business people like it that way.... And, too, it's called: externalities....






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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    Well, as I previously pointed out, it's socialism for the rich and free enterprise for everyone else. The libertarian Lew Rockwell (he has his own site: http://lewrockwell.com/) has pointed out: All the big banks in America are Zombie banks. They're bankrupt.
    But we, the American taxpayers, keep propping them up. That's just absolute theft and pure corruption to the bone. (The way a capitalist system is supposed to work is quite simple: when the lender lends he or she assumes the risk and if they lose, well, they take that loss. The private losses of the banks have been transferred to the men and women [the taxpayers] of America. It's criminal. It's corruption. It's fascism. It's fascism the way Mussolini coined the term. A nexus, or link, between corporations and government.)
    Ron Paul has said he would let these banks fail. Because he knows they're bankrupt and that we taxpayers keep propping them up. Year after year after year.
    Ron Paul also pointed out that America has, well, a sort of soft fascism. Whereby big business and government have a close and cozy relationship. They're in bed together. Well, they're married and their marriage is doing quite well -- ha ha ha!

    Hitler and Mussolini gave their workers state houseing and medical i don't see that in America


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