Bloody Football!

[DirtyDon]

Is this a football or poetry thread? Let's not talk about Scotland again until Sean Connery dies.

[robertlouis]

Is this a football or poetry thread? Let's not talk about Scotland again until Sean Connery dies.

Pick a windae pal. Yir leavin'.

[SammiValentine]

Pick a windae pal. Yir leavin'.

moyes got nailed again? ha.

[robertlouis]

moyes got nailed again? ha.

As we put it in Glasgow, "His jaicket's definitely oan a shoogly nail."

In the meantime, Robbie Savage doesn't pull his punches on the need for a clearout at Old Trafford.

http://http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25665649

[Stavros]

Aside from the fact that the 'clearout' of backroom staff by Moyes is already being cited as a factor in the decline of morale at the club, I am surprised that anyone would take Robbie Savage seriously as an analyst of football. A pundit, yes, but that is as far as it goes. Although I think the morale is the biggest issue, Moyes does not have key players fit, and has been on the wrong end of some outrageous refereeing decisions. I still think United will make it to the top four by the end of the seasons if van Persie and Rooney return and are at their best, but it will be a struggle. I think a lot of this negative publicity is caused by people who want United to fail.

[robertlouis]

Aside from the fact that the 'clearout' of backroom staff by Moyes is already being cited as a factor in the decline of morale at the club, I am surprised that anyone would take Robbie Savage seriously as an analyst of football. A pundit, yes, but that is as far as it goes. Although I think the morale is the biggest issue, Moyes does not have key players fit, and has been on the wrong end of some outrageous refereeing decisions. I still think United will make it to the top four by the end of the seasons if van Persie and Rooney return and are at their best, but it will be a struggle. I think a lot of this negative publicity is caused by people who want United to fail.

I agree with your general comments on Robbie Savage, but I don't think his judgements are far out. And of course people want to see United crash - wait till Sammi's next intervention! - but the midfield is inherently unstable until they get Fletcher back to his best, the defence is more than just suspect, and strikers of the quality of Welbeck and Hernandez should be able to provide adequate cover for Van Persie and Rooney.

Fellaini was a daft panic buy, and Moyes should unload him back to Everton - not that Martinez needs him - and get Mata in there quickly. He should be able to provide the drive and invention that's lacking.

I don't think United can recover to make the Champions League - that fourth place is between Liverpool and Spurs.

[Stavros]

I think we can agree that if Spurs end higher up the table than Manchester United then United really do have problems.

[The Piper]

Moyes will get away with the fall,Ferguson will see to that.After all he did put him up for the job.Will have to save face.
But Glory Days don't last forever,maybe it's that time.As a Liverpool fan i know that.
Why is everyone so concerned what happens to the most hated club in the country anyway

[beaufont]

And it just keeps on getting better

[robertlouis]

Moyes will get away with the fall,Ferguson will see to that.After all he did put him up for the job.Will have to save face.
But Glory Days don't last forever,maybe it's that time.As a Liverpool fan i know that.
Why is everyone so concerned what happens to the most hated club in the country anyway

I was about to say it's because of their long record of consistent success, but I don't think anyone hated Liverpool like that when they were on top.

Weird, isn't it? As a (Scots) neutral, although with a family link to Liverpool, I've always liked the teams down south who play proper football, so I've admired a lot of Man U's play on the pitch. Mind you, I used to like West Ham for the same reason, so what do I know?