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08-28-2011 #101
Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
Heart, skin, corneas, all the organs, etc.. Poisons or high doses of electric current make just about all of it unusable. You know somebody, who's probably perfectly healthy, is going to die at a specific time. There's people on waiting lists for every piece of that cadaver. Why waste it?
"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle."
~ Kinky Friedman ~
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08-28-2011 #102
Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
I suppose it serves some of society... The Death Penalty.
My personal take is it cheapens the institution, the judicial ideal... and a contemporary, cozy euthanasia is a easy road for the culture, and the defendant.
I'd prefer life for the accused, live it out, think it through... and in the instance of error, survival.
But, my idealism is certainly trumped by all the complexities of the actual dispensation of sentences and practices of police and law.
The practice of law, the criminal justice system is like a very undesirable communicable disease .... avoided at all costs.
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08-28-2011 #103
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08-28-2011 #104
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Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
Yeah, fuck laws. People are freer when their whole community can be dominated by the whims of one rich fucker and his hired thugs.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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08-28-2011 #105
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08-28-2011 #106
Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
Perhaps that may happen. But people will be free to choose whether they want to be dominated or whether they don't. The problem is that we want the safety and security that laws bring but to force people to accept those laws we then install the security and government apparatus which becomes the new tool for those who seek to dominate others. So, in effect 'we the people' have created our own prisons and the rich fuckers just uses his servants to run the prison.
But at least we can be force fed all the garbage sold to us in safety and security!
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08-28-2011 #107
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08-28-2011 #108
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Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
Perhaps that may happen. But people will be free to choose whether they want to be dominated or whether they don't.
The problem is that we want the safety and security that laws bring but to force people to accept those laws...
...we then install the security and government apparatus which becomes the new tool for those who seek to dominate others.
So, in effect 'we the people' have created our own prisons and the rich fuckers just uses his servants to run the prison.
Last edited by trish; 08-28-2011 at 10:13 PM.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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08-29-2011 #109
Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
No....
"That's what i thought you said."
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08-30-2011 #110
Re: are you in for or against the death penalty
There are those 'in the real world' who are quite content to be administered.
Representative government didn't spring fully formed - like Diana from Zeus - out of the mind of humanity. Its roots were likely noble but even then it wasn't a process which involved the majority of the people in any one city/culture/country. If you buy into the theory that democracy came from Greece then you should know that it was only a small part of the male population of the greek city-states that had the right to vote for their representatives. Over time, sure the process became more inclusive but it also became more malleable and less transparent. I do not believe that truly representative government is possible without a fully armed and educated population which ensures that government never becomes bigger than the people.
You have a good point - we in North America are indeed much better off than others since we are not blatantly enslaved.
I have spent a short time imprisoned and have lived under a pseudo-dictatorship. Definitely living on the outside of prison and in Canada is preferable. It is all about degrees anyways....we choose to accept that which is the least risk in order to preserve life. But somehow the primal spark of Abel remains in me. (and no I'm not a follower of the bible or any religion)
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