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    Quote Originally Posted by hippifried View Post
    I predict that it's going to be all Weiner all the time until something else happens to distract the media attention fro...

    Oooh look, shiny...
    Helicopter journalism.
    Ya know, ya hover over a juicy/scandalous/ratings-grabbing story (Arnold Schwarzenegger, Charlie Sheen, Haiti, Lindsay Lohan etc. etc.) and then you move on and hover over the next story and on and on and on --



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    The first paragraph from Glenn Greenwald's blog is interesting:


    The joys of repressed voyeuristic titillation

    By Glenn Greenwald

    There are few things more sickening -- or revealing -- to behold than a D.C. sex scandal. Huge numbers of people prance around flamboyantly condemning behavior in which they themselves routinely engage. Media stars contrive all sorts of high-minded justifications for luxuriating in every last dirty detail, when nothing is more obvious than that their only real interest is vicarious titillation. Reporters who would never dare challenge powerful political figures who torture, illegally eavesdrop, wage illegal wars or feed at the trough of sleazy legalized bribery suddenly walk upright -- like proud ostriches with their feathers extended -- pretending to be hard-core adversarial journalists as they collectively kick a sexually humiliated figure stripped of all importance. The ritual is as nauseating as it is predictable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    The first paragraph from Glenn Greenwald's blog is interesting:


    The joys of repressed voyeuristic titillation

    By Glenn Greenwald

    There are few things more sickening -- or revealing -- to behold than a D.C. sex scandal. Huge numbers of people prance around flamboyantly condemning behavior in which they themselves routinely engage. Media stars contrive all sorts of high-minded justifications for luxuriating in every last dirty detail, when nothing is more obvious than that their only real interest is vicarious titillation. Reporters who would never dare challenge powerful political figures who torture, illegally eavesdrop, wage illegal wars or feed at the trough of sleazy legalized bribery suddenly walk upright -- like proud ostriches with their feathers extended -- pretending to be hard-core adversarial journalists as they collectively kick a sexually humiliated figure stripped of all importance. The ritual is as nauseating as it is predictable.
    Greenwald further writes, and I believe this: "Yes, Anthony Weiner lied -- about something that is absolutely nobody's business but his and his wife's. If you're not his wife, you have absolutely no legitimate reason to want to know about -- let alone pass judgment on -- what he does in his private sexual life with other consenting adults."



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    Tuesday, Jun 1, 2010 14:30 ET


    New liberal fans: Meet Anthony Weiner, ultra-hawkish backer of Israel

    The prominent New York Democrat's far-right Zionism might surprise some of his new liberal fans

    By Alex Pareene
    Reuters/Nicholas Roberts
    U.S. Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-NY)


    Rep. Anthony Weiner's completely non-measured, non-conciliatory remarks on the Israeli attack on the humanitarian aid flotilla are proof that he'd rather be a successful New York politician than a prominent national liberal.
    It's a little odd, actually. Weiner has spent the last year becoming the sort of unapologetic liberal Democrat that netroots activists and cable news bookers love.
    After deciding not to run for mayor of New York last year, Weiner dedicated himself to being a relentless advocate for the Democratic healthcare reform plan. (He blogged on HuffPo and everything.) He's great with a sound bite and he's a born street fighter in a party full of timid moderates. He's Jon Stewart's old college roommate. He's taking on Glenn Beck and sparring with Bill O'Reilly. He's easily one of the most prominent liberal politicians in the nation.
    But at the end of the day, he still wants to be mayor of New York, once billionaire Mayor-for-Life Michael Bloomberg finally grows bored and steps aside.
    Will the liberals who only know Weiner from his feisty MSNBC appearances and his staunch support of the president's domestic initiatives be put off when they hear him taking the "Israel can do no wrong" side in the debate over Israel's botched raid, in international waters, of a humanitarian aid flotilla?
    Weiner's statement is comical. "Even if we are the only country on earth that sees the facts here," Weiner says, "the United States should stand up for Israel." That's the statement of a man with whom there can be no reasoning.
    And it's not, by any means, outside the norm for Weiner. He's precisely the sort of liberal establishment politician that Peter Beinart accused of failing young American Jews in the New York Review of Books recently. In the past, Weiner has matter-of-factly accused Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International of being anti-Semitic. And not just them!
    "I would argue that in many cases, the New York Times has" anti-Israel bias, Weiner told Amy Goodman in 2006. The idea of any elite, establishment newspaper in New York having an "anti-Israel bias" makes sense only if you consider any criticism of any action taken by the state of Israel to be out of line.
    Also in 2006, Weiner introduced legislation banning aid to the Palestinian Authority and barring the Palestinian delegation to the U.N. (and kicking them out of the county). Weiner insisted that the PLO was a terrorist organization. And the delegation, he said, "should start packing their little Palestinian terrorist bags."
    His demagoguery on this particular issue largely stopped once he decided he couldn't beat Bloomberg. But he's hawkish enough that Ronn Torossian, a scummy publicist who once told a journalist that he wants a thousand Arabs to be killed for every Jew, threw Weiner a "breakfast reception" in January. I doubt Torossian (who's represented right-wing religious cranks Benny Hinn and John Hagee) appreciates Weiner for his advocacy for single-payer Medicare for all Americans.
    Support for Israel in all its conflicts is still the bipartisan norm in Congress, but the rise of the neocons in the Republican Party has made unquestioning support of Israel's current right-wing government increasingly a right-wing concern in the U.S. Democrats face pressure from the young, activist base to be more critical of Israeli actions than they were expected to be a generation ago.
    But Weiner needs the support of New York's Orthodox and Hasidic communities if he wants to be mayor. And it's bad enough that he recently married a Muslim woman! (Check out the comments here if you want to see how quickly some right-wing Israel supporters can turn on one of their most steadfast political allies.) Philip Weiss says Weiner just repeats the talking points of the Israel lobby because that's what his constituency wants to hear. If that's true or not, he'll continue repeating the far-right line on Israel.
    It will be interesting to see what sort of statement Sen. Chuck Schumer makes, if he makes one. Schumer's untouchable in New York, and he's been, like his protégé Weiner, a staunch ally of Israel throughout his carer. But Schumer wants to be the Senate majority leader. And a good portion of the senators who might support Schumer want an unapologetic liberal leader. I imagine Schumer will put out something equally uncritical of Israel, but way less confrontational than Weiner's statement.



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    he should have known better...



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    I think Anthony Weiner, Barney Frank, and Dick Army should rent a house together. Anthony and Dick just need to remember to lock their bedroom door at night so Barney doesn't wander in there while "sleepwalking".



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    One day I'd like to see a politician get up and say,, Yes that was my pic, so freakin what, you don't like it, well that's too bad, don't vote for me,, I'm free to do what I please, this is America.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvonne183 View Post
    One day I'd like to see a politician get up and say,, Yes that was my pic, so freakin what, you don't like it, well that's too bad, don't vote for me,, I'm free to do what I please, this is America.
    Vote for my Uncle Sil then.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dino Velvet View Post
    Vote for my Uncle Sil then.


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    He's the fucking boss, a top boy.


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    Stick a fork in it. This Weiner is done. Anthony won't survive the weekend.



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