Usama bin Laden is dead

[Prospero]

All together now....

[natina]

PROOF OF THE RAID
WARNING!:THE MOST GRAPHIC
WARNING!:THE MOST GRAPHIC

http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound

WARNING!:THE MOST GRAPHIC
WARNING!:THE MOST GRAPHIC

WARNING!:THE MOST GRAPHIC
WARNING!:THE MOST GRAPHIC

http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound

[Prospero]

Natina your postings are utterly enraging.... the same thing over and over again

[Silcc69]

WTF is up with this?

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../13_Laden.html

[TJ347]

Natina your postings are utterly enraging.... the same thing over and over again

I think they're absolutely SPAMTASTIC!

[Ben]

Published on Saturday, May 7, 2011 by Guernica Magazine My Reaction to Osama bin Laden’s Death


We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic.

by Noam Chomsky

It’s increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law. There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 80 commandos facing virtually no opposition—except, they claim, from his wife, who lunged towards them. In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress “suspects.” In April 2002, the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller, informed the press that after the most intensive investigation in history, the FBI could say no more than that it “believed” that the plot was hatched in Afghanistan, though implemented in the UAE and Germany. What they only believed in April 2002, they obviously didn’t know 8 months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know, because they were instantly dismissed) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence—which, as we soon learned, Washington didn’t have. Thus Obama was simply lying when he said, in his White House statement, that “we quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda.”
Nothing serious has been provided since. There is much talk of bin Laden’s “confession,” but that is rather like my confession that I won the Boston Marathon. He boasted of what he regarded as a great achievement.
There is also much media discussion of Washington’s anger that Pakistan didn’t turn over bin Laden, though surely elements of the military and security forces were aware of his presence in Abbottabad. Less is said about Pakistani anger that the U.S. invaded their territory to carry out a political assassination. Anti-American fervor is already very high in Pakistan, and these events are likely to exacerbate it. The decision to dump the body at sea is already, predictably, provoking both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.
We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic. Uncontroversially, his crimes vastly exceed bin Laden’s, and he is not a “suspect” but uncontroversially the “decider” who gave the orders to commit the “supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole” (quoting the Nuremberg Tribunal) for which Nazi criminals were hanged: the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country, the bitter sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region.
There’s more to say about [Cuban airline bomber Orlando] Bosch, who just died peacefully in Florida, including reference to the “Bush doctrine” that societies that harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves and should be treated accordingly. No one seemed to notice that Bush was calling for invasion and destruction of the U.S. and murder of its criminal president.
Same with the name, Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound, throughout western society, that no one can perceive that they are glorifying bin Laden by identifying him with courageous resistance against genocidal invaders. It’s like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk… It’s as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”
There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about.
© 2011 Noam Chomsky

[Ben]

[robertlouis]

80 young and innocent Pakistani army recruits were killed today in two suicide attacks hailed by the Taliban as revenge for the assassination of Bin Laden, with promises of more to come. His killing was entirely symbolic, despite the feelings of closure many felt on hearing of his death.

The cycle continues. The man is dead but the hate lives on.

[yodajazz]

80 young and innocent Pakistani army recruits were killed today in two suicide attacks hailed by the Taliban as revenge for the assassination of Bin Laden, with promises of more to come. His killing was entirely symbolic, despite the feelings of closure many felt on hearing of his death.

The cycle continues. The man is dead but the hate lives on.

You are exactly right. The real strategy should be to fight the hate itself. Live and let live, so to speak. The real kicker to this is that fighting hate, is at the core of Christ's teachings. It just seems to be that many followers of Christ, have trouble with the one thing, he commanded us to do: Love God, neighbor, and self. In short, Love.

I see people hating Islam, rather than holding the persons themsleves accountable, to be an accepted state among many. Some primary understanding it's messages, would teach that the Koran still gives the person the choice to choose between principles. I mean this is true with every religion/philosophy. So its not the ethinic/religious group, that should be hated. You can hate an individual's actions, but you should 'love' mankind. An easy tool, is to see as much of yourself in others. as you can.

We should consider fighting hate itself. Its the right fight, to make things right.

[yodajazz]

80 young and innocent Pakistani army recruits were killed today in two suicide attacks hailed by the Taliban as revenge for the assassination of Bin Laden, with promises of more to come. His killing was entirely symbolic, despite the feelings of closure many felt on hearing of his death.

The cycle continues. The man is dead but the hate lives on.

I think it was wrong for Al Queda to kill 80 army recruits , in revenge over Bin Laden's death. For all we, or thier killers know, their job may have been to protect Bin Laden, once they were trained. You never know. But it goes back to looking at person's actions. An operation that killed that many people would have had to be extensively planned. So a logical conclusion, is that it was planned before Bin Laden's death. They just used that as an excuse for something that was already planned. Ideas live beyond bodies. So Bin Laden's body, and ideas of war a separate things to pursue.