Usama bin Laden is dead

[sexualexplorer]

I'll join you in the queue to dance on her grave, mate!

Talking of dancing on graves, would anyone care to join me when I dance like a dervish on that of that f***ing uber-puritan bitch, Harriet Harman? For those of you who wonder why I suggest you research her attempts to push prostitution further down the road to absolute illegality in the Policing And Crime Act 2009:

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http://www.prostitutescollective.net/

I think we could make quite a party of it.

[TJ347]

Upon review, I could have worded it better. I could have said, "some or many Republicans hold positions that place money above their fellow man, such as in the healthcare issue. Human situations, got lost with the focus, taxes and finance." Not that two wrongs make a right, but I often hear phrases like, "Liberals think ...", without qualifying they mean, that some have that tendency, etc. People like Rush, come to mind when I hear such words. I did state in replys, in another thread, that I did not mean all Republicans, by the way. I am one of many people, who believe that the greatest issues are nation face today, are related to the predictions that Eisenhower said in his farewell speech. I posted the vid of his speech here on an HA thread, but I guess you might consider him to be a radical leftist.

Actually, I'm almost certainly just as guilty of not always qualifying my comments, so let's just agree to move on from that argument. As to Eisenhower, I'm not the type to simply write him off as a leftist who has nothing to say worth listening to, nor would I do that if you referenced someone who's opinion on an issue I was not already familiar with. I'm far from a hardline conservative, particularly on social issues. There are some issues on which I am sure we would be in 100% agreement. I believe that it is on these issues we should focus in this country rather than those which are most contentious, if only because in doing that I expect that we would be more civil when discussions of those more contentious issues came around. However, this is a thread about bin Laden's death, so I will leave enough said about anything else to another thread from here on out.

[tvkim]

Oh no..... he can't be dead..... that means no more "bin-liner" jokes!

Also, I think Nasa should send a manned mission to the moon and paint on it a huge "we got the fucker ha ha" so all his supporters can see it every night!!

[giovanni_hotel]

[Avers]

>Paranoia because you personally didn't see it happen

No way. The key problem is that all these things happened too fast for an event of this kind. The world has never seen his body. And that’s really strange. Because the USA never respect any laws (including islamic laws) if they want manifest theirs victory to the whole world. You could be sure that the real OBL’s body should be presented for everyone observation in W-DC as the sign of USA military triumph. But this time the USA did the best to finish this story as fast as it was possible. And that’s strange.


The second evident key factor is that the body of OBL was “engraved” at the sea. USA pretend that it was made with objective to avoid the creation of the cult of this terrorist in islamic world. But the reality is much more simple. Or the coffin was empty, or the body in this coffin was not the body of OBL. And any DNA expert research could prove it in a future if the body was placed into the usual grave. That’s why the body was “engraved” at the sea. To hide the truth. Now nobody can make DNA identification in a future to prove that this person was not OBL. Because the body and the grave don’t exist anymore.


Well, there are also at least 12 key moments like this that can identify the mistification of USA in this case, but I see no reason to develop these ideas here.


>They're watching an unedited preview screening of Diarrhea Bukkake.

The liars. That’s not the first time in theirs lives and not the last one. On-line game / show specially made for USA president and for his colleagues. On-line report. That’s really stupid as the joke and as the public show.

[Ben]

All Those Operational Details the Obama Administration Gave About the bin Laden Raid? Maybe They Weren't Quite True.

Peter Suderman | May 3, 2011




What a difference a day makes. Yesterday: Obama administration officials said an armed Osama bin Laden was shot and killed in a firefight while using one of his wives as a human shield. The wife, we were told, was also killed in the process.
Today: Maybe bin Laden wasn't armed. Or using the woman as a human shield. And, well, she wasn't actually his wife. Also, um, she didn't die. But aside from that...
From The New York Times:

The new Defense Department narrative released by the White House, and read at a White House news briefing on Tuesday, said that one of Bin Laden’s wives was shot in the leg as she charged members of the commando team on the third floor of the compound.
“In the room with Bin Laden, a woman – Bin Laden’s wife – rushed the U.S. assaulter and was shot in the leg but not killed,” the brief statement said. “Bin Laden was then shot and killed. He was not armed.”
Jay Carney, the White House press secretary, read the narrative in an attempt to correct statements by administration officials who had suggested that Bin Laden was armed during the raid.
Under questioning, Mr. Carney said that the White House stood by its claim on Monday that Bin Laden had resisted capture, but said that “resistance does not require a firearm.” Mr. Carney said that the new narrative was the result of “fresh” information.
...On Monday, John O. Brennan, the top counterterrorism adviser to President Obama, said he believed that Bin Laden’s wife had been killed while trying to shield the terror leader during the 40-minute raid.
But the narrative released Tuesday by Mr. Carney suggested that the woman who died in the raid was part of another family living at the compound. The narrative says that woman was shot and killed on the first floor, not the third floor, where Bin Laden was found and killed.

Let's assume, for the moment, that no bad faith was involved in the initial transmission of these unfortunate untruths, and that it was all a result of a misunderstanding, not a deliberate plan to spread a convenient story about bin Laden dying a particularly pathetic death. As anyone who's ever played a game of telephone knows, it's tough enough to get a bunch of people sitting in a room next to each other to keep a story straight; in the fog of kinetic military action, it's surely even tougher.
But that's the point: This sort of revision should be a reminder to anyone tempted to take the official story at face value before it's been independently reported and verified. It's easy to ignore the fact that the vast majority of the details reported about the raid came via the usually-talking-point-filled mouths of administration sources, not from firsthand accounts, independent reports, or documentation. All we know is what various senior officials said happened, not what actually happened. This is why it would be helpful for the administration to release documentation—images, video, audio, whatever—that can verify the official account of the raid. But so far, they're not even saying exactly how Obama and other White House officials tracked the operation's progress, only that they followed along in real time.
The administration deserves a small amount of credit for willingly issuing what amounts to an embarrassing correction—but only a small amount. If you're going to stand in front of the world as senior representatives of the United States government and confidently assert that some historic event happened in some particular way, then you'd better be certain you've got your story straight. By failing to get basic who, what, and where information right the first time around, the administration has undermined its own credibility on what ought to have been a straightforward victory and arguably made it easier for the inevitable conspiracy theories to spread. Good for them for correcting their mistakes. But they should've gotten it right the first time around.

[hippifried]

Ben,

You haven't posted anything from "the Obama administration". Just would-be reporters, supposedly quoting unnamed sources. Now I'm not accusing anybody of lying. Just embellishing a bit. For all anybody knows, that "Whitehouse official" could easily be the official janitor. Probably not though. The Whitehouse janitorial staff have integrity.

[Ben]

Ben,

You haven't posted anything from "the Obama administration". Just would-be reporters, supposedly quoting unnamed sources. Now I'm not accusing anybody of lying. Just embellishing a bit. For all anybody knows, that "Whitehouse official" could easily be the official janitor. Probably not though. The Whitehouse janitorial staff have integrity.

[Ben]

[Stavros]

When its clear that nobody can explain precisely what happened a few days ago you wonder how anyone can answer an essay question like 'Why did Germany go to war in 1914'?

The US administration, the military, the intelligence community have not co-ordinated their 'stories' if they could -it is all ripe for 'correction', 're-writing' and so on, none of which obscures the brutal truth -OBL is dead. I dont know if they decided not to arrest him whatever, if the Ak-47 and Russian pistol nearby was a genuine threat, if OBL was too tall to fit in the helicopter, etc etc. Reality is a messy business, but I do not mourn the death of OBL, or Saddam Hussein. It also removes the problem of who, in the US would try OBL -a military tribunal or criminal court? In asymmetric warfare, someone like OBL is clearly some form of accessory to the 9/11 crime, but the 'soldiers' were on the plane and are dead, and OBL, Zawahiri are not conventional 'commanders'. The overall issue, justice for the victims, remains unresolved.