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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by TJ347 View Post
    It has nothing to do with focusing on the male talent to any degree, but rather on what I need as an individual to "get off", so to speak. Let's not make this another "Am I gay" situation... The customers are speaking here.
    What you need to get off, can be entirely different to the next person, and the next person. The best we can do is try to get it right for the majority and listening to someone who is really focused on the male models (whether it's a gay issue or not) is focusing on the smallest demograph, especially one wanting "buff gay guys". The vast majority of the customers come for the girls and that's where we focus. As long as the male performer looks decent and can do his job, I'm not going to put too much energy into that. I get about 20 applications a week from male performers, most of them unsuitable. The odd 1-2 who do make it through, often don't perform well, which is why we tend to stick to the ones that do work.

    I think given the photos I've shown above, it shows that there are plenty of male performers that aren't "fat, ugly or out of shape." It does still amaze me, that you are putting the focus on the male performer though - you stated that it wasn't yet also that "if I get tired enough of seeing their faces there's always the Brazilian flicks, which have a greater variety of male talent."
    I don't get it, I go to watch the girls that I like - and hope the male performer is good in that scene and unobtrusive, I have no interest in anything other about them.



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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    I have no idea where she is - have you seen her advertising anywhere?
    Ouch ... that doesn't sound good.

    I remember well M's few solo episodes and
    a tremendous hardcore scene with Ant (?):
    A good actress who obviously liked what she did active & passive.
    A loss if M is not more in business.

    Maybe we should start a thread "Where is Marylyn" "We are missing M." ?

    Thanks



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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    I'm tired of seeing the same bald, cross-gay guys in TS porn.


    What's that do?

    The Judge, last words.(Right before being blasted by a bazooka.)
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by igotmacedbymimi:( View Post
    Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn
    Really? The less I see of any guys in ts porn the better it is for me. In fact, I gravitate towards solo ts and ts on ts porn because it takes the guys out of the equation altogether.

    But each to their own...



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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    It does still amaze me, that you are putting the focus on the male performer though - you stated that it wasn't yet also that "if I get tired enough of seeing their faces there's always the Brazilian flicks, which have a greater variety of male talent."
    I don't get it, I go to watch the girls that I like - and hope the male performer is good in that scene and unobtrusive, I have no interest in anything other about them.
    What's sad is that I knew when I said that, this would be the likely result. I thought what I was saying was fairly straightforward, but let me explain anyway... It's impossible NOT to recognize that it's Tom Moore or Christian yet again, whether you want to focus exclusively on the girl in the scene or not. If I feel, having seen Tom or Christian in the seventh movie I've watched this month, that I'm tired of having them be the male talent in every single one of those DVDs, I go to Brazilian flicks. This is what I was saying. I don't have to focus on the guy in the scene to an unusual degree to recognize when it's Tom or Christian; it's pretty much guaranteed to be one or the other in US flicks, so the only way you can be certain to miss them is if you're the type who only watches Strokers videos, which don't do anything for me.

    That said, you're a producer, so you know the business better than I do. Far be it from me to criticize what is working for you. I'm just speaking, as was the OP, for what I do and don't like. You don't need my business and I understand that, but there is someone out there perhaps who may decide to tailor his or her wares to our tastes, which are not so unique as you seem to think they are.


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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by TJ347 View Post
    That said, you're a producer, so you know the business better than I do. Far be it from me to criticize what is working for you. I'm just speaking, as was the OP, for what I do and don't like. You don't need my business and I understand that, but there is someone out there perhaps who may decide to tailor his or her wares to our tastes, which are not so unique as you seem to think they are.
    I just completely fail to see what difference the guy makes, as long as he looks decent and performs well. That being said, we don't use Tom Moore (he may have appeared in ONE of 100's of hardcore scenes we'd done), we do use Christian as he's excellent but we do change it around. Looking at the above scenes Christian probably features in less than 15% of our releases.

    It's not that I don't need your business and I think your taking the comments a little personally considering this wasn't a thread about my business or feedback but a one complaining about "fat, ugly" male performers in favour of "buff gay ones". We welcome all feedback and try to act on it, where appropriate which, as I mentioned, we don't feature Tom and feature other male performers so you aren't really putting a point across to me, about OUR specific product but of course, I'm open to hearing it.



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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    I just completely fail to see what difference the guy makes, as long as he looks decent and performs well. That being said, we don't use Tom Moore (he may have appeared in ONE of 100's of hardcore scenes we'd done), we do use Christian as he's excellent but we do change it around. Looking at the above scenes Christian probably features in less than 15% of our releases.

    It's not that I don't need your business and I think your taking the comments a little personally considering this wasn't a thread about my business or feedback but a one complaining about "fat, ugly" male performers in favour of "buff gay ones". We welcome all feedback and try to act on it, where appropriate which, as I mentioned, we don't feature Tom and feature other male performers so you aren't really putting a point across to me, about OUR specific product but of course, I'm open to hearing it.
    The porn that I tend to watch, to be honest, isn't your product given that typically I watch Brazilian porn. When I do watch US transsexual porn, Tom and/or Christian seem to always be in it, but it doesn't really bother me too much given that I don't watch porn often these days. In fact, the last time I watched a US production, it was the one with Ava Devine, Vicki Richter, Vo D'Balm and Carmen Cruz, and that movie came out quite some time ago I'm sure.

    Anyway, I'm not taking anything personally; I was just saying that as you're clearly selling product, I don't expect you or anyone else to change a successful formula to suit the OP or myself. As to him wanting "buff gays" in his transsexual porn... That isn't what I want at all, and indeed, you can't please everyone, nor is it worth trying to. As I said, I'm just happy when a girl I like earns her money in a scene. If you see to that (i.e. the male talent performing well) I'm pleased enough not to feel like I got ripped off. Sadly, this tends not to be the case with porn I've seen overall more often than not, even the Brazilian flicks.


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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    I have not seen any fat and out of shape men in TS porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by theone1982 View Post
    Well, Christian is pretty buff, but he's basically in every scene that doesn't involve Tom Moore. As long as the guy can get hard and stay hard and the girl is at least marginally interested in him, that's all I really care about regarding the guy in porn. I hate it when they can't get completely hard, it's like they're trying to unlock a doorknob with a piece of spaghetti.
    What? Christian has a threesome scene with Tom Moore in Transsexual Babysitters. It has no bi/homosexual action.



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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by igotmacedbymimi:( View Post
    Could just be my opinion. But why cant the porn producers actually pay for some decent male talent as well?

    A lot of the girls are using 'fans'. A lot of the production companies are using the same unattractive men.

    This is the porn industry, not real life, everything is just a made up fantasy. Behind the porn set is some seedy little cameraman and another equally seedy producer on a backstreet appartment with a makeshift set.

    But why not make it more polished? Instead of the weedy little guy who you get for free or even pays the ts or porn company a hundred bucks, why not actually pay some huge buff hung dude a thousand bucks to get in on with a real hottie ts?

    Come on, imagine the chemistry if they both dig each other and the guy really wants to go at her, think how much better it will be on camera surely for the production and also the viewers, surely worth the extra money?

    Ok, i understand that maybe the problem is finding these guys, but again, this is porn, its not real, why not hire some of the most buff and hung gay pornstars to feature with the ts. If the guys pop a few pills they will be bursting to go, they probably wont even need to anyway! The ts are sure as hell going to enjoy it.

    If you ever watch gay porn and the hot guys in it compared to straight porn (although that isnt too bad), ts porn has got to be the worst for male talent.

    Make an investment, if the hot hung gay dudes come at a price, its worth it because you will pay a bit more in order to get a much better cut and lots more footage!
    I can't believe you made an entire thread just to call me out and make fun of my physique sir. My feelings are deeply hurt by your assessment of my physical hardware.

    In the future I will try to reach for the viagra jar more often than the bowl of M+M's. Off to the gym I go...



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    Default Re: Tired of seeing fat, ugly, out of shape, average men in ts porn.

    Quote Originally Posted by igotmacedbymimi:( View Post

    Ok, i understand that maybe the problem is finding these guys, but again, this is porn, its not real, why not hire some of the most buff and hung gay pornstars to feature with the ts. If the guys pop a few pills they will be bursting to go, they probably wont even need to anyway! The ts are sure as hell going to enjoy it.
    You're know much about the business. You shouldn't be speaking. Most of the men in TS porn also appear in gay porn. Christian, Gabriel, Tom Moore, TY Roderick, ect. Most of the men on TS Seduction have appeared on Kink's gay sites.



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