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04-11-2011 #11
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its easy to say stop driving so much when you live in small states or big city areas....Here in Texas our state is freakin HUGE! With all the ranch/farm land, you have to rack up the miles unless you live in Dallas, Houston, San Antonio or Austin. We have areas in west Texas where the closest town is 30-40 miles away.
And before you say "move to the city", its not always that simple. Sometimes thats not possible. Also, who do you think grows the food that you buy in the cities? Its kinda tough to plow up the back fourty when it has been paved.....just sayin'
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04-11-2011 #12
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fucking hate gas price. have to sell my V6 soon
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04-11-2011 #13
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Free money from the Fed, coupled with ever decreasing competition mergers/acquisitions, mixed with lax regulation and a toothless/captive regulatory regimen under the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) equal rising oil/gas prices.
All one need do is look at the De Beers paradigm to understand how all markets can be fixed in this case the diamond market is not about supply or demand. The scarcity in the market is artificially created by De Beers by controlling the diamond market from the mine-shaft to the retail sales counter. This scheme allows De Beers to mark up the pricing of it's diamonds by controlling the supply.
It is this very scheme that is being practiced by big oil.
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04-11-2011 #14
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Here in NYC, i get around by taxi mostly...but my parents work and live in Florida and they tell me gas has nearly douibled since Obama took office. I'm not voting for him again, his energy policy seems to be to punish Americans while Soros profits. We need to be energy independent but we also can't get there overnight and cause our economy to go down the toilet. No leadership IMO.
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04-11-2011 #15
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Yeah, BUT a good deal of that $10 price is subsidizing your transportation infrastructure that in many cases you don't need to drive or own a car. Here in the states were driving on roads and bridges that are over 50 years old and badly in need of maintainance. Most communities have either no public transportation or so unreliable, that you can't depend on it for getting to work. For the most part, there is no planning to the public transportation and the routes are politically determined between adjacent communities so rather then move people to where they need to go to work or shop has been altered by politicians to make sure they get a part of a federal subsidy by absolutely absurd routes that aimlessly move around in circles to make sure part of the route goes into places that have no need for it. Then there is the issue of tolls and now mandatory electronic transponders that have put toll booth workers out of work. If there is any investment to repair or build a major new road it's either privately funded or funded with toll agreement that recovers the investment quickly and generates huge profits. In many places cities require a pre-paid decal for people that commute through the city from adjacent communities. We don't get free lunch here on $4/gallon when you figure tolls,fees,and in many cases psychotic traffic enforcement that's got nothing to do with traffic and only to generate huge fines. A red light or radar camera can cost you over $300 in the states. Then we have gridlock in many municipal areas due to haphazard civil planning and unsynchronized traffic lights. My daily commute in the morning is about 7 miles to my office. I spend easily 45 minutes to an hour in stalled or creeping traffic..longer if there is a wreck. I consider myself lucky. But my gas cost nearly quadruples over what it would cost if I could just drive there without sitting in traffic. Yeah, I'd gladly pay $10/gallon if I could either take a bus to work and not pay nearly $USD 2000.00 a year for insurance with a perfect driving record or be able to drive to work on a modern road system.
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04-11-2011 #16
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Im driving an american vehicle in britain not a good move lol
time for LPG conversion cos im not getting rid of my jeeeep!
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04-11-2011 #17
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04-11-2011 #18
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I'm afraid youve been fed an ideal that doesnt exist here in the UK. $10 per gallon, roads in a terrible state of repair, and an average speed around major cities of about 10 miles an hour. I lived in london for 10 years and had to drive becuase the public transport system from where I lived to where I had to get to was rubbish. A 10 mile trip took me on average about an hour, I paid £800 per yr insurance struggled to park and at the end was paying $12 a day in congestion charge. Now I live in the country, I have no public transport options whatsoever, the roads are unpassable in the winter, we have 2 cars, drive on average 300 miles a week in each car, pay £275 a year on road tax and £500 on insurance on each car and then the $10 per gallon so I'm spending about US$10k a year just on fuel, so please dont tell me how wonderful the transport system is here becuaes it is one of the worse in Europe. The massive taxation that we pay DOES NOT get put back in to the road transport system but subsides the shortfall we have in so many other areas.
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04-12-2011 #19
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idk but the one thing i love about livin in the city is not havin to have a car
Pussy is ALWAYS free for me
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04-12-2011 #20
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Actual oil prices will continue to climb. And thus throwing the economy into another tailspin, as it were.
The American economist Barry Eichengreen described the perpetual cycle of boom and bust (as the economy has become increasingly volatile since its financialization) as the: doom loop.
And the busts, as it were, will be more severe. Pretty bleak outlook, eh? ha! ha!
Mistake number one: lowering taxes on the super-rich. 2) The financialization of the economy. 3) the offshoring of middle class jobs.
As the economist Paul Craig Roberts said: You can't have a full recovery if we continue to offshore jobs. It's, essentially, bleeding the economy.
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