My Dilema

[Chris in LA]

Dude....That's a classic dilemma !!!!!! The gurls on here will probably tell you you're already marked, and that's probably true for the most part. But it's worth the price of a dinner just to play your hand and see how this develops or doesn't.
I have no idea what this gurl is like or what her motivation is. I have made friends with several escorts I see fairly regularly...Not friends like meeting her family at Christmas, LMAO.. but friendly enough to have lunch or dinner, or a ride along the beach on the back of one of my bikes. They have no problem or difficulty separating business from a friendly dinner, and I know right where I stand. I works well. There is an unspoken mutual respect. I don't need the fucking drama , and they're probably not looking for a steady dude.

I've stated on numerous occasions I have no problem paying for my vices. I get exactly what I want, when I want, and from whom. You watch...They'll be dudes who will from the safe seat behind their keyboards that will howl at that and tell you how they'd never pay for it. That their dick rap is so good they get their shit for gratis.. LMAO. With rare exception, I'm not buyin' it for a second.

My take for what it's worth ?? Take her to dinner see what kind of gurl you're dealing with. By the time you finish your first glass of wine....you should know !

I think I'm already over taking her out to dinner now...I think her true colors already shined through even though I made my intentions pretty clear. I wanted to get to know her, but she said I could skip all that if I was a customer...

I have no problem with anybody who works or anybody who pays, its just something that I don't want to do because what if I go back out after I meet somebody that I feel I can build something with, and then she finds out I paid for sex with an escort? Then somebody I really like is going to feel differently of me and probably not want a relationship if she found out.

[flabbybody]

your o/p said it was "ts night". that's code for working girls

[BeardedOne]

This can go so many ways and you're getting some good advice from the ladies here (And maybe 50/50 from the guys).

Folx here can tell you that I'm not one to give dating and relationship advice. Decades down the line and more than a hundred partners/lovers under the bridge (Hmm...That didn't come out quite right) and it's pretty clear that I'm not getting the formula correct in the 'normal' routes. So I, for one, will vote the commercial as opposed to the traditional path and, in my experience (And I'm very good with number$) it's proven more economical.

i even see clients that tell me stuff like "dont tell her i saw u, she gets jealous" in reference to other escorts

At the other end of the spectrum I am the guy that asks for references and introductions to other ladies. That's primarily because I am of a poly mindset and have run in micro-cultures where plural relationships are more the norm than the exception. Though it does beg the question: If the Chinese ideogram for 'trouble' is the representation of two women under one roof then what would the word be represented by two transwomen under one roof?

[NYBURBS]

Hi all, thanx for reading, I am new here, but think this site is awesome! I've been reading posts and finally decided to sign up for an account and get your opinions.

So I waited the standard 3 days to hit her up after, actually it might have been 4or 5 days later, haha, but I text her and she said she was mad at me. I asked why and she said I should know why, but whatever, we got past that and I wanted to know if I could get to know her better. I offered to bring over a bottle of wine so we could just relax and have good conversation to see if it was going to go anywhere.

She responded with something to the effect of "I don't know you well enough yet to have you over to my house...unless you are a customer. But if you want to treat me like a lady and take me out to a nice dinner then we can do that."

This threw me for a bit of a loop, cause I couldn't really understand how she didn't know me enough to have me over, but of course, if I was a paying customer, it would be no problem for her to invite me into her home.

Now, the girls I've met online and hooked up with were not "working" girls, so I never had to shell any $ out of pocket, although I did take one out to dinner and another one out to the movies, just like a normal date.

I didn't even know before her remarks that she was a working girl, but I'm glad she at least let me know. I text her back and told her I've never paid for ass & she responded with, well you can take me out to dinner then.

So, my question for y'all is, do I take her out to dinner and try to work that angle, like I've done in the past, or would it actually be cheaper to just pay her for her services? Which is the better investment?

Look, a lot of guys just want to have sex with these girls and then act like they don't know them. They won't be seen in public with them, and converse with them only as they get dressed to leave after the sex. Think about it, they can get sex whenever they want (if they are half way decent looking), but what a lot of them want (on a personal level) is for someone to treat them like they would any woman they ask out for a date.

Obviously she wants something more than just sex, or in the alternative she wants to at least make money off of it. If you just want to screw then pony up the cash and leave it at that. Taking her out a couple of times might end up being more money, and fucking with someone's head is bad karma. Just my two cents.

[Chris in LA]

Though it does beg the question: If the Chinese ideogram for 'trouble' is the representation of two women under one roof then what would the word be represented by two transwomen under one roof?

LMAO, I guess MAJOR TROUBLE!!!

[Chris in LA]

Look, a lot of guys just want to have sex with these girls and then act like they don't know them. They won't be seen in public with them, and converse with them only as they get dressed to leave after the sex. Think about it, they can get sex whenever they want (if they are half way decent looking), but what a lot of them want (on a personal level) is for someone to treat them like they would any woman they ask out for a date.

Obviously she wants something more than just sex, or in the alternative she wants to at least make money off of it. If you just want to screw then pony up the cash and leave it at that. Taking her out a couple of times might end up being more money, and fucking with someone's head is bad karma. Just my two cents.

You make some good points here. I don't mind being seen in public with them, like I said I've been out on dates with a couple ts girls before, dinners & movies, so that's not my issue.

These women go through a lot in their lives & I really can respect that but again, I just don't know how dating a girl who is an escort can turn in to a long term relationship. I think I will leave this particular girl alone & see if my luck continues through other online methods.

[south ov da border]

in the end it's what do you want . If you want to pursue it then you must be willing to deal with her on HER level. Escorts are regular people too, so you have to understand what it is she does does not define her.

[nsagent]

She's just like any other girl, ignore her client talk and proceed as you were. She'll get over the talking to another girl.

[partlycloudy]

you should hang out with t$420...

[yodajazz]

What the hell are you asking us for, do you want a cost-benefit analysis on whether to date her or something? If you plan on dating her, and she doesn't feel like giving it up right away, you might end up spending more money up front until you get sex, and that's not even guaranteed, compared to seeing her professionally. However, if you continue dating, your cost per sexual encounter will decrease compared to her costs as pro. But remember, costs per sexual encounter increases exponentially over time should you decide to move in together and take the relationship to the next level.

Thank you much, for your math analysis. This explains everything. Now I understand, why I'm paying about $5,000 a hit. Whereas I started out getting it free along with a free home cooked meal. And now along with my five grand, I have to bring her some take out food.