Does anybody personally know a legally married TS?

[peggygee]

As a post op woman who has been legally married, I feel that I am able to address a few issues, and perhaps shed some additional light on the topic under discussion.

Currently, if a woman is a pre op transsexual and gets married in a state that allows it, that would be deemed a same sex marriage, or in some instances a civil union.

If she is post op and has had her birth certificate amended that would constitute a mariage between a man and a woman, as such the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) does not apply to post op women.

If you have had your birth certificate amended, you would be allowed to marry in all of the states exept: Idaho, Ohio, and Tennessee.

These are also a number of countries that allow a post op woman to marry: France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, South Africa, China, Singapore, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, Iran, to name a few.

[deangamble1967]

Yes, and in response to some answers re post or pre op that is irrelevent in many european countries. You can legally change your gender now and marry without having to have an operation

[Jake4]

As a post op woman who has been legally married, I feel that I am able to address a few issues, and perhaps shed some additional light on the topic under discussion.

Currently, if a woman is a pre op transsexual and gets married in a state that allows it, that would be deemed a same sex marriage, or in some instances a civil union.

If she is post op and has had her birth certificate amended that would constitute a mariage between a man and a woman, as such the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) does not apply to post op women.

If you have had your birth certificate amended, you would be allowed to marry in all of the states exept: Idaho, Ohio, and Tennessee.

These are also a number of countries that allow a post op woman to marry: France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, South Africa, China, Singapore, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, Cuba, Iran, to name a few.

It's been legal in Canada for several years for a transsexual woman to get married to a man or a woman regardless of whether or not she has had SRS.

[TJ347]

Interesting. Was she legally considered a woman?

She had SRS and legally changed her name before marrying, and from what I've gathered so far there was no issue whatsoever until her husband died. At that point, his ex and children contested his will, and somehow their lawyers are using a copy of her original birth certificate to prove the marriage invalid. I'm anxious to see how this shakes out, as it will establish whether the law really recognizes a person who undergoes SRS as a member of another gender. I suspect the answer here will be "no".

Did a google search...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_653129.html

[peggygee]

There's currently a TS in New Jersey fighting to get her share of her late husband's estate. While I don't personally know her, I know that her marriage appears to have been considered legal right up to where her husband's will was challenged by his ex-wife and the children from that previous marriage. Guess time will tell whether New Jersey recognizes the marriage as legal now.

She had SRS and legally changed her name before marrying, and from what I've gathered so far there was no issue whatsoever until her husband died. At that point, his ex and children contested his will, and somehow their lawyers are using a copy of her original birth certificate to prove the marriage invalid. I'm anxious to see how this shakes out, as it will establish whether the law really recognizes a person who undergoes SRS as a member of another gender. I suspect the answer here will be "no".

Did a google search...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_653129.html

As you pointed out in your second post, the lawsuit in question is occurring in Texas as opposed to New Jersey.

I have been following the case as well, and one of the areas of contention is that she may have been pre op when they married, and then subsequently had GRS.

In the state of Texas it would have been illegal for her to marry a biological male while she was pre op.

Further, Texas had been one of only four states that a post op transwoman could not be married in, the other three were: Idaho, Ohio, and Tennessee, as stated in my previous post.

However, in 2009 lawmakers changed the Texas family code to permit an applicant for a marriage license to use a sex change court order to nullify the birth certificate gender. The new law also allows a driver's license to serve as proof of identity and age.

Thus "Texas law now says you can get a marriage license after a sex change".

The two key questions to be adjudicated in the Nikki Araguz case are:

1. Was she legally a female at the time of her marriage.

2. Will the 2009 ruling apply to the August 2008 marriage of Nikki to Thomas Araguz

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-ne...nder-marriage/

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/news...e-in-texas-law

[TJ347]

My understanding from what I've read thus far is that her husband became aware that she had been born a man several months after their marriage, at which point they separated permanently. Also, I recall reading from some site or other that she had SRS prior to marriage, and changed her name around that time as well. Of course, I don't know if any of this is in fact true, though I would think her late husband wouldn't have walked down the aisle with her only to later leave her upon finding out she once had a penis. I suppose time will tell. It's a very interesting story, one way or another.

[peggygee]

My understanding from what I've read thus far is that her husband became aware that she had been born a man several months after their marriage, at which point they separated permanently. Also, I recall reading from some site or other that she had SRS prior to marriage, and changed her name around that time as well. Of course, I don't know if any of this is in fact true, though I would think her late husband wouldn't have walked down the aisle with her only to later leave her upon finding out she once had a penis. I suppose time will tell.

It's a very interesting story, one way or another.

My thought on that is that they most likely seperated for the usual stuff couples do.

As you point out perhaps none of us will ever know the complete facts and truth of the case.

But yeah, could make a great movie for the Lifetime Network.

[palomo7531]

I was just wondering if any TS have been married in the last five years? Plus did any of them marry women before they transitioned?

[KelliBlueEyes]

I was just wondering if any TS have been married in the last five years? Plus did any of them marry women before they transitioned?

I know trans women that have married women since they transitioned, in fact one that i know is a former sex worker in nyc that had, in the past, been mentioned on the recently removed Escort forum here.
I know trans women that have married men, both before and after the change in the marriage laws. Trans women had always been able to marry men once they got “all their Fs”, now that same sex marriage is legal, trans women can legally marry women.

I also know trans men who have married men, women, and other trans men.

Marriage of trans is nothing new, and relatively unspectacular

[BTAM]

Nope but I think a friend is in an ltr with one..but she’s really cute tho