Why all the hate towards women, TG and GG?

[BigDF]

Haters gonna hate.
So long as HA remains a forum, there will always be forum trolls and uninformed newbies who sign up just to air their opinions and stir the shit. The only time HA wasn't like that was back when nobody really knew about the site.

Pleading and complaining about it isn't going to change a damn thing. In fact, I'm surprised this whole thread hasn't turned into troll-fodder yet. I just don't understand why everyone keeps referencing the "old days" because things were just as screwy and biased back then, too.

I'm surprised myself that they haven't stormed in here yet. The responses on here have been very reasonable. I know haters are always going to hate, but that doesn't mean we have to live with it. Things can change, and they will, either positively or negatively. Sure things were screwy and biased in the "old days" but I would lay money not expressed as viciously as this is a reflection of our larger outside culture.

I've spent a lot of my life tilting at the windmills in our culture and I know not to expect much, if any change. But I can't stand by and watch it all go away without trying to do something about it. As I said when I started this thread, if the ladies go, we have nothing. So if you're out there lurking and you favor the ladies, here's your chance to let them know you're on their side.

Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.

Dave

[LibertyHarkness]

all the time something is FREE to participate in you will always get peons that use it ..

[TSLexiWade]

What's most fucced up is ultimately all the bad-mouthing runs off new members and girls who under more civil circumstances would post here once in a while.

Too many people use being on the internet behind a keyboard as a license to be an asshole, and they jump in it!!!

If you put all the shit-talkers in a club together, maybe one would even speak up to say their name.

I blame the mods.

Yeah... Reading & dealing with the immature delinquents on here calling people CD's from thread to thread & the constant harassment from others - the shit gets old - FAST!

& when you contact a mod about it, they say "everything is okay."



HATERS: Have you ever worried about what your words may do to someone emotionally? I mean, there are some people in the world who aren't as strong as others - so your disrespectful comments and hate could definitely impact someones life one day - just something to keep in the back of your mind.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

They don't hate women. They think every man should use them.

Misogyny - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

~BB~

Now Bella, that's totally unfair and untrue, sweety. I actually believe that I should be the one used...by every woman, TS, TG, TV, GG. Use me girls....PLEASE!!!!!

[joannajet]

Hi Grim,

Haters gonna hate.
I just don't understand why everyone keeps referencing the "old days" because things were just as screwy and biased back then, too.

I see that you have been a member since 2005 so that makes you a newbie to an old bird like me that has been on this site since 2002

I certainly agree that back in those good old days, there were indeed bad apples too but at least they were in a minority.

What is important though is that this thread is clearly demonstrating that there is a wish for change and the fact that I have posted more than once in a week is surely a good sign!!

Kisses,

Joanna
xxx

[audifan]

This is a noble and worthy thread, if quixotic. So thanks.

But if the number of views so far is indicative, it's not going to be high profile on this board.

So I think more of the positive, reasoned posts are also needed in the viral threads like that "Men that F*ck CD's" one, which BigDF and others are already doing.

[GrimFusion]

Hi Grim,
I see that you have been a member since 2005 so that makes you a newbie to an old bird like me that has been on this site since 2002

I certainly agree that back in those good old days, there were indeed bad apples too but at least they were in a minority.

What is important though is that this thread is clearly demonstrating that there is a wish for change and the fact that I have posted more than once in a week is surely a good sign!!

Kisses,

Joanna
xxx

Oldbie versus newbie battle, eh? lol. I'd think it's pretty safe to say we both have a good grasp on the year-to-year flux on HA. A lot has changed, but I think it's been for the better. I remember when I first signed up, much of the discussion around here was transition-related. Posts about hormones, pumping, surgery, SRS, make-up tips, and tucking were common-place. New users would sign up just to blatantly cause problems and air their derogatory, homophobic opinions within their first 20 posts, but I think the lack of community and public acceptance lent to that. With the exception of a handful of trustworthy admirers, most of the guys couldn't or wouldn't mix into conversation with the girls on HA because more often than not, they'd slip with a little naivety and end up being bullied right off the forum despite their intentions. That might sound like I'm trying to demonize the community back then, but not really. There were weeks in which for every trouble-makin' dude purposely run off, two would show up and cause more problems, so it sort of came with the territory. A lot of the semi-regulars had a preordained bad rap.

Now despite talk shows essentially demonizing transsexuals, the "Jerry Springer" era has more or less dissipated. Our forum trolls no longer bluntly call the ladies around here "dudes" or "men", incessantly talk about "shemales", or blatantly insult right off the bat, unprovoked. Yes, we have a few of those, but they're no where near as numerous as they used to be.

Instead, we have "barbie manufacturers". Dudes who want a chick that looks a certain way and go as far as insulting fishy bitches who don't meet their standards. I don't get it. There's been plenty of times I haven't followed the "if you don't have anything nice to say..." rule of thumb, but I know when to keep my thoughts in my head. I don't understand why some people have such a problem with that. Mental disability, I guess.

So far, I haven't gotten to the "change for the better" part yet. Lately (and I mean very lately), the topics in GD have been interesting to say the least. I don't really want to put a positive or negative spin on that, though. The point is, the forum has been active. VERY active. Something this forum has got going is working. It might just be all the user-drama. I mean, this place does play out a bit like an adult soap opera. Maybe the new users and lurkers think it's entertaining. That's sort of painting a rainbow black, but in an ass-backward way you could call it a positive.

That and I think there's far more user-to-user relation now than there has been in the past. This place used to be a bit of a "good ol' boys" club. If you weren't part of "The Circle of Regulars" it was a challenge being recognized or getting replies. That's different now. Even new users are mixing in pretty well so long as they're willing to contribute. It's rare noobies get hazed anymore. Truth be told, that's about the only reason I miss having Dupree around. She was some solid entertainment.

[BigDF]

Hi Grim,



I see that you have been a member since 2005 so that makes you a newbie to an old bird like me that has been on this site since 2002

I certainly agree that back in those good old days, there were indeed bad apples too but at least they were in a minority.

What is important though is that this thread is clearly demonstrating that there is a wish for change and the fact that I have posted more than once in a week is surely a good sign!!

Kisses,

Joanna
xxx

Hey, thanks Joanna! I was just gonna buzz through real quick to check the progress, but then I saw your post and had to respond. I'm encouraged by the responses I've seen and a bit surprised that the little boys haven't come bounding in here yet. We'll see what happens in the next day or so.

Dave