Post-op girls: How is the sex now?

[audifan]

It is intriguing how you cherry-picked two anecdotlal, second-hand
responses from non post op women. When in the very thread you
cited, I posted numerous studies from journals, as well as proffering my
own experiences as a woman who has had GCS.

Bottom line, folks can engage in conjecture, and hypothesize ad infinitum
ad nauseum.

But unless you have had the operation, have been sexually intimate with a
woman who has had the operation, or are wlling to take the word of said
woman, then you're just wasting bandwidth and time.

re. cherry-picking, I was simply answering the claim that "All of the post in other threads siad the opposite of what you are saying". As you say, that's unimportant. I missed your post, so thanks for reminding me. I'll read and try to learn.

[peggygee]

re. cherry-picking, I was simply answering the claim that "All of the post in other threads siad the opposite of what you are saying". As you say, that's unimportant. I missed your post, so thanks for reminding me. I'll read and try to learn.

Thanks for being open-minded to an alternative point of view.

And for those that are desirous of information on legal, medical, political
issues impacting transwomen, please feel free to peruse the website of:

The International Post Operative Woman's Association
http://theipowa.org/

[innocentbychoice]

Unlike most hypersexed chasers, most women's lives are not centered on their next orgasm. An orgasmic fix is not always the root of happiness.

Nobody said it was. I'm just asking something specific and I hope post-op girls answer.

[innocentbychoice]

Post in other threads? All of the post in other threads siad the opposite of what you are saying.

The OP's questions was definitely condescending of post ops in general in the way that it was asked. I seen plenty of information about TS who have straight cut there penis and testicles off. No surgery or anything. No vagina. Just nothing there and it made them more happy.

You and the op obviously "WANT" going post op to have as many negatives about it as possible as you obviously don't like SRS.

Don't reply with that BS lie posted in my thread. Its like a person saying that saying that all Mexicans are lazy equipped with racial slurs then saying he like Mexicans and he's not racist. We are not retarded.

Your assumptions about TS and sex are bigoted and presumptuous.

What? where did you get that? OMG some people here. I'm a gay man, I want NOTHING to do with tgirls, pre-op or post-op. I'm just genuinely interested in the trans community and I think this is a great place to get info.

The fact that you came up with that conclusion based on my post and without knowing anything about me is beyond my understanding. Jeez people, I don't want anyone to feel anything about anything, I'm just asking something that can only be answered here. Gosh.

[innocentbychoice]

I was so happy when I came here and saw the thread was 5 pages long. I thought I was gonna get a lot of insight from the girls.

Turns out there's a bunch of guys fighting about my "condescending" tone and rudeness and some other crap they pretty much made up.

To clear things up again, I'M A GAY MAN. I want nothing to do with a tgirl sexually, I'm not a chaser, or an admirer or anything, I'm just a guy who wants to know a bit more about the trans community.

For some reason my words got twisted by some guy called Tehero, and some other guy called Phobun agrees that I was rude and implying that SRS is bad because I want pre-op girls. WTF? Where do you guys get all this? LOL. You sure have a lot of imagination. And you sure are judgemental, closeminded and oversensitive for being in a forum like this.

Funny thing is, no girl has complained about anything, it just some guys whinning. The girls are actually answering the questions. So could you please guys back off and let the girls do the talking? If they're offended, they can say it, and they can express how they feel. You're just being ridiculous and pulling some absurd shit out of your ass.

[peggygee]

There's a non-op transwoman on youtube who said she won't get SRS because she doesn't want to spend tons of money to have a vagina that might not function well, that might not give her the same sexual satisfaction. She was like "a vagina is for having kids, if I can't have kids what's the point?"

So after hearing her I've always wanted to ask to the post-op girls:

1. How is the sex now compared to when you stil had a penis?
2. Is your vagina as sensitive as your penis was?
3. How are your orgasms now compared to before? Is getting to the climax as "complicated" as it is for genetic girls (compared to men)?
4. In general, is your sex life better now? why?

............. and I hope post-op girls answer.

The concise and succinct answers:

1. My penis was a source of great angst to me, as such I rarely used it.
In fact pre operatively I was never the penetrative partner in sexually
intimate encounters. I never fucked a man, nor had any perform oral sex
on me.

Post operatively, my genital status is in synch with my psyche, and I
would say I have a healthy sexual drive.

2. Due to lack of use, and the emotional distress of having a penis, sexual
activity was somewhat painful to me, not that I didn't have any, in fact I
had lots, a helluva alot.

As to the sensitivity of my vagina, I have full sensitivity in my vagina,
labia majora / minora, and clitoris.

3. As mentioned above, I abhorred touching my penis. Thus if I would
masturbate it would be a hurried, unpleasant affair, and once I had
climaxed I would feel somewhat uncomfortable emotionally.

When I would have sex with a lover, I would never want them to touch
me down there, look in the area, perform oral on me, or other-wise
engage with my penis. I might masturbate while they were fucking me,
but I would do my best to keep my penis out of sight.

One cool thing is before I had GRS, I had an orchiechtomy, which
allowed me to be somewhat multi-orgasmic, so that made sex more fun.
Also with the orchiechtomy my penis didn't get as erect, and was easier
to conceal, and cut down on the ejaculation

Now, I love oral, love having my partner view, smell, touch my vagina,
smack it up, flip it, rub it down, oh yeah.

Masturbation is great, and fun, and something that I often will really
spend alot of time doing, or doing more frequently.

4. My sex life is 1000% better. It feels right, feels normal, I'm orgasmic,
in fact multi-orgasmic, the difference between an outie and innie, is
literally like day and night.

Taco over the sausage, hands down.

[tehero]

Yup...What he said....really tehero...that whole thread you started was written in an intentionally antagonistic way.

You mean the thread for people who "liked" post op women? Your saying my thread was not only antagonistic but intentionally when almost every reply I made was in defense of post op women against bigots like you?

Your full shit.

Also, do you know how to read english grammar? Do you know what the difference between "negative connotations" and "negative words"? What you did was use a straw man argument. You altered the content of my statement then made an agrument against your own altered creation while presenting it as if it came from me because you couldn't refute the statement as it was as their was nothing wrong about it. You need to ask your self to find these negative words for I know nothing about them.

And don't pretend that you don't know what I'm talking about or that it wasn't on purpose. The easiest thing to do is to copy something word for word so any alteration to the statement is done willingly and intentionally.

Go pull that one on someone of a lower intellect close to your level.

[tehero]

I was so happy when I came here and saw the thread was 5 pages long. I thought I was gonna get a lot of insight from the girls.

Turns out there's a bunch of guys fighting about my "condescending" tone and rudeness and some other crap they pretty much made up.

To clear things up again, I'M A GAY MAN. I want nothing to do with a tgirl sexually, I'm not a chaser, or an admirer or anything, I'm just a guy who wants to know a bit more about the trans community.

For some reason my words got twisted by some guy called Tehero, and some other guy called Phobun agrees that I was rude and implying that SRS is bad because I want pre-op girls. WTF? Where do you guys get all this? LOL. You sure have a lot of imagination. And you sure are judgemental, closeminded and oversensitive for being in a forum like this.

Funny thing is, no girl has complained about anything, it just some guys whinning. The girls are actually answering the questions. So could you please guys back off and let the girls do the talking? If they're offended, they can say it, and they can express how they feel. You're just being ridiculous and pulling some absurd shit out of your ass.

I didn't twist your words at all.

You purposely selected a statement that spoke condescendly of post ops and used it as the bases for your thread.

You made it clear that the bases for your questions was negative.

"3. How are your orgasms now compared to before? Is getting to the climax as "complicated" as it is for genetic girls (compared to men)?"

This question right here is bogus. The only way someone could answer that qustion is if they were gg and then were morphed into men then got post op surgery. Its a question that has no answer and will only lead to conflicting opinions if someone tries to answer.

To be honest, there is little reasoning behind any of your questions and the way you asked them was in a very presumptuous way.

I didn't distort anything. If it was not your intention to be negative then you need to go back and right the original post better because it is condescending from the first sentence. The fact that a TS said it doesn't change the the fact that of all possible things you could have quoted you chose an opinion that not only looked at the subject matter negatively but also from a person who couldn't know anything about it as she has never had SRS and doesn't intend to then used it in a manner that inferred that you are in agreement with it.

Just because that one person was a TS doesn't mean that she has the benefit of most TS in mine or that she knows everything there is to know about them much less ones who have undergone a surgery that she hasn't and obviously looks at negatively. Her statement is the TS equivlient of a self-hating black man talking trash about all other black men followed by all of the racist who use his statement as some 100% authentic godsend fact just becaue he was black and it was convienient for their argument.


A summary for those who minds can't handle reading all of the information I posted.

1. He picked the worst representation of the subject matter from a person who was admittedly ignorant about it.
2. He used the fact that this person was a TS to give his presumptuous questions validity as if being a TS gives her all the knowledge in the world about them now and forever.
3. His wording implies that the topic statement (which looks downward on SRS) was to his liking and that he is in agreement with it.
4. He refuses to clarify any of these points which point to these things being intentional.


Though it is nice to see that the girls aren't bothered by all of the low key anti-postop statements that a lot of posters are leaving behind.
Its nice to have their opinions and "facts" on the subject matter whether than just the presumptions of a bunch of butthurt cockhounds.

Peggyee has answered the questions clearly and I assure you that she is more knowledgeable on the subject than the person the op quoted in the first post.

[MrsKellyPierce]

What? HRT can damage nerves? I want to read more... do you have a reference for this?

I'd like to know too, please . But I didn't know that people say taking hormones can damage your liver or shorten your life expectancy, so I guess I need to read up more...

To you both.........yes it can ruin the sensitivity in your penis...Where you can't get hard...or feel anything. This usually happens when a girl over-doses thinking if she takes more hormones than normal it will work BETTER. Which isn't true...some girls take more because they want it to not work at all because they loathe it.

I don't necessarily believe every girl that has transitioned is diagnosed correctly. Some girls have body dysphoria rather than actually being a transsexual.

Hormones can ruin a lot of things downstairs sex drive of course, the sensation, etc etc etc

[audifan]

Thanks Kelly.