Aim is shut down??!!

[JoePitt]

... to the closure of your beloved AIM. The idea of an alternative has never even crossed into the minds of any of you. I find that just as creepy as any other group think you girls have been engaged in.

For the record, I'm glad AIM plans to re-open and I'm not bashing it. My problem is with its dominance. In case you haven't figured it out, I have a natural inclination towards opposing situations in which people have few, if any choices, and again, I think AIM's dominance makes it less likely that anyone will truly be able to compete to the point that it's better for the models.

If you don't like my opinion, ignore me or work it out.

~BB~

For the record, your solution to the AIM "problem" was to set up another monopoly. This tells me that somebody over there must have pissed in your bowl of Cap't Crunch. BTW, monopolies are a very good thing sometimes.

[the jesse]

If you are in need of testing in LA go to:


Talent Testing Services Northridge 818.885.0812 Hrs: Thurs 5-10pm Fri 9am-5pm Sat 9am-1pm Next Mon-Fri 9am-5pm


AIM will get their license back in LA after the state figures out how to provide the same service and i.e. make money.

thanks for the info aly

[natina]

there was the place in VAN NUYS AND OR THE PLACE IN NORTH HOLLYWOOD or in WEST LOS ANGELES and a few others that had the more expensive test $$$$ thats used in the porn industry.

Good. Now there won't be a monopoly on performer tests anymore as if AIM was the only place in all of Los Angeles that could provide them.

Score one for choice.

~BB~

[Los Angeles resident]

I'm probably in the minority here, but I think it's irresponsible of the adult industry to insist that performers don't wear condoms. I will admit I would get turned off if a girl receiving a blowjob was wearing a condom, but I would not have an issue with condoms being used if they're performing vaginal or anal sex.

[oscman]

There is another benefit to testing through AIM, which is useful to those who are not professionals - You can sign up for periodic testing without going to a doctor. HIV testing is important, but you could also get a range of other tests - Gonorrhea, Syphilis, Herpes, etc. as well. Not as serious as HIV but still nasty.

You could use AIM for tests either as a performer or a Non-performer. You could also go to other labs in the LA Area and even in other states.

I hope that they get their licensing issues resolved and are able to resume business soon.

[ALYSINCLAIRxxx]

happy to be of service to you Jesse

thanks for the info aly

[NYBURBS]

lol no, not you.. you know the guy who posts the same youtube videos about race all the time

You're probably talking about natina, a.k.a. Brenda

[GroobySteven]

I made my point. I'm not going to lower myself to your elementary school games. It doesn't matter how many times. It doesn't change the principals of capitalism.

I'm out of this thread.

AIM is a non-profit organisation ... that isn't very Capitalist.

"The nonprofit AIM clinic opened in 1998. Fielding said county public health officials did not become aware that they were operating without a license until April. In May, he said they sent clinic officials a letter advising them that as a nonprofit, they could not operate under an affiliated physician’s license and needed to apply instead for a clinic license."

Maybe you should read more instead of having knee-jerk reactions to everything.
Fucking womble.

[natina]

HOW CAN YOU SHIT AND HAVE A BIG DICK UP YOUR ASS AT THE SAME TIME?

the amazing abities of NYBURBS

You're probably talking about NYBURBS a.k.a. DOUCHE BAG

[BellaBellucci]

AIM is a non-profit organisation ... that isn't very Capitalist.

"The nonprofit AIM clinic opened in 1998. Fielding said county public health officials did not become aware that they were operating without a license until April. In May, he said they sent clinic officials a letter advising them that as a nonprofit, they could not operate under an affiliated physician’s license and needed to apply instead for a clinic license."

Maybe you should read more instead of having knee-jerk reactions to everything.
Fucking womble.

Yeah, you know something. I'm not out of this thread yet after all because I can't let people spread disinformation just because they think I won't respond. That's some bullshit right there, so I guess I will bash AIM after all after doing a bit more research. It seems that you and indeed many other producers have little regard for models' health:

To wit:

1) Founder Sharon Mitchell is not a medical doctor - she is a sexologist.

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2) The database of performers is in direct violation of HIPAA laws, which is why my suggestion earlier in this thread that the producers fund it directly wouldn't actually work: there's far too much liability. They needed a front so they started AIM.

3) Some people are saying this is an 'administrative' problem, but let's face it: the laws and licensing are on the books to protect patients, so in effect, breaking those laws indicates an unsafe and/or illegal situation for performers.

4) Some have tried to compete with AIM but could not because they were already so ingrained within the industry. As I've held all along, I hope better and more numerous clinics spring up to fill the void.

5) People who work there and run the place still get paid. Let's be real: there's really no such thing as a true non-profit.

6) Of course there's the whole Derrick Barry incident as well as numerous others who have tested positive. In most of those cases, studios were quickly notified as were partners of the infected. Patient Zero was seldom, if ever, given the proper care, which is a direct indication that AIM protects the industry, not its performers. In short: testing doesn't even work from the models' perspective.

and last but certainly not least...

7) The industry does in fact fund AIM. It's logical to conclude that they do this to avoid using condoms in productions since they also pressure most models to do so to the point that those who want to use them many times cannot get work at all.

"After years of total inaction, Los Angeles County officials have finally shut down AIM -- the porn industry's sham clinic."

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/lo...111636234.html

And here's some info on what's going on now regarding 'clandestine draw stations,' AKA illegal draw stations:

http://darrahford.wordpress.com/2010...to-get-tested/

All of this said, I officially change my position on mandatory condom use. While as a Libertarian I hate mandating anything, they should be used EVERY TIME to protect the health and safety of performers and the integrity of studios that have always had this requirement, and frankly, since the fans prefer to not see condoms in their porn, the only way to level the playing field is to require them of everyone. Taking a, 'if you don't risk your life, you can't make a living attitude,' is beyond harsh; it's heartless.

Trust me, the market will adjust if it has no other options and OSHA should have the same standards for studios as it has for doctors, dentists, etc, to reduce the transmission of bloodborne pathogens.

Now I know why everyone was so quick to defend the place. It's just as shady as the other parts of the industry that I've attacked in the past and they knew what would happen once I had more information. They knew I'd put it out there. Well here it is.

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/loca...-down-20101209

Knee jerk, indeed.

~BB~