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Thread: Wikileaks
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11-30-2010 #11
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11-30-2010 #12
Re: Wikileaks
You're referring to Bradley Manning, and for any of the decent minded human beings on here that might want to help in his legal defense, you can go to this link and then click on the donate button:
http://www.bradleymanning.org/
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11-30-2010 #13
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11-30-2010 #14
Re: Wikileaks
No, nothing goes on in there. Have you been to that board? Just a bunch of threads full of copy/paste news stories and youtube videos. Every damn thread is like that, a real desert of discourse, if you will. So if you want to actually talk about politics and religion you should do it here.
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11-30-2010 #15
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Re: Wikileaks
The world suffers from puritanism. No not that kind of puritanism. The world suffers from purists; i.e. people in the grip of one simple memetic “principle.” One such “principle” claims all information should be available to all people. Let’s call it the “transparency principle.” The corollary is that no information should be classified or held back...the public needs to know. At first blush it’s a motto that has some appeal. But it is by no means self-evidently true. Indeed, a moment’s reflection will reveal that the transparency principle directly contradicts the “privacy principle” which also has considerable appeal. Unlike the folks at Wikileaks, I don’t subscribe to the unadulterated principle of transparency. In our diplomatic practices there is a necessary, if fuzzy, line demarcating the boundary between transparency and privacy; and though the line is fuzzy, Wikileaks crossed it. In their fervor, based on their hard-headed belief that no information should be classified, they published everything they had without scrutiny, without a clear understanding of the consequences and without concern ... their conscious assured by the purity of principle.
I do think that whistle-blowing is important and whistle-blowers need protection. But stealing classified information and publishing it without understanding it is not whistle-blowing.
Last edited by trish; 11-30-2010 at 06:53 PM.
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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11-30-2010 #16
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Re: Wikileaks
I agree with the points trish made but yet I absolutely support what they do. The world needs to know how decisions are being made, even if it´s still not the ultimate truth. Yes, WikiLeaks is handling these informations in a partially irresponsible way because they´re also commercial but still required.
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11-30-2010 #17
http://www.ts-lisa.com KITTYPRIDE IS MY BITCH
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