How will Religion cope???

[trish]

Okay you're too lazy to search for a link. But that's no reason why you can't explain now, why citing a study is evidence of worship. So go ahead and explain. Why would my citing a study be evidence of worship?

[PomonaCA]

Okay you're too lazy to search for a link. But that's no reason why you can't explain now, why citing a study is evidence of worship. So go ahead and explain. Why would my citing a study be evidence of worship?

I'd rather just point it out as we go along. That way I can point out your problem and help you with it.

[trish]

Yeah, right. So let me get this straight. You claim my citing a study would be evidence that I worship science, yet you have no examples of where I made such a citation. In fact you've claimed that several others here also worship science. So what is the evidence for your claim? It can’t be that we all cite papers. So how do you know? Do you have a premonition that one of us is about to cite a study? Or a gut feeling that I’m the type who would cite a paper in defense of an opinion. It seems what you have is a gut feeling that there would be evidence if only I would just go ahead and a cite paper. But even if I cited a paper, you can't tell me why that would be evidence of worship. Oh I know, you prefer to evade the question I actually cite a study and you've had time to think up a reasonable answer (as if all evening wasn't enough time).

Since you claim to know our minds better than we do ourselves, I’ll treat you to a little secret about your own head. You won’t believe it. But it’s true. You’re jealous. Here we are, a bunch of non-believers, free of the encumbrances of superstition and there you are, unable to break free of your miserable little Middle Eastern desert god. You haven’t been able to throw off the yoke of belief, have you? Why? Does the threat of fire and brimstone loom just a little too large? Or perhaps you just can’t bare to disappoint family and friends. Your intellectual cowardice is something you insist on keeping even at the price of misery. Perhaps its the uncertainty of the world that frightens you. Better to pretend to certainty of the word of a fictional god, then attempt to make ones way in the world of uncertain knowledge and provisional solutions. Perhaps you just can’t comprehend not having something to worship. That’s why you’re so quick to accuse others of being what you are, a bent-knee worshiper. Inside you wail, “If I can’t find freedom, no one else really can either; not really.” Isn’t that right? Isn’t that how you feel? All those professed atheists, you think, are just kneeling down before other gods. They must be. They can’t be free. Perhaps they worship science, or philosophy or some sort of monolithic liberal politics. In your mind everybody has to worship something. I’m sorry for you. I really am. Because freedom really is exhilarating. I wish I could help. I've tried to engage you this evening, but you were too afraid to post anything but snide remarks. But hey, what is it you conservatives say, “every man for himself.” Perhaps you should just go back to the general forum and whack off to some TG-porn, and then pray that your little imaginary man forgives you.

[PomonaCA]

Yeah, right. So let me get this straight. You claim my citing a study would be evidence that I worship science, yet you have no examples of where I made such a citation."

You'll give me plenty of examples, just wait. Give yourself some time. You're like a goldmine of science worship and I'm confident you'll pull through. Don't be so hard on yourself. Remember, just be yourself and your science worship will reveal itself.

[hippifried]

No you seem to think that my citing a paper (an instance of which you never linked to) would be evidence of my worshiping science. Why do you think that?

Because he's gullible & stupid.

Gullible because he bought the bullshit hype & thinks it works.

Stupid because he can't figure out why it doesn't work on somebody who isn't gullible & stupid.

[trish]

Thank you PomonaCA for showing us, by your example, how religion will cope: with denial, evasion, sweeping displays of ignorance, accusations of idolatry, attempts at smug superiority and all the other Taliban tactics of religious fundamentalism. You can post anything you wish, PomonaCA, but you've so undercut your credibility, at least with me, and have so revealed the bad faith of your intentions, that I no longer have any reason to take anything you say as honest or accurate. Of course it's not entirely your fault. You're trapped in your cramped little mind and can't get out. You're jealous of the freedom all around you that others enjoy. You want to restrain them. You want to punish those who aren't trapped in the ways that you are. You hate us for our freedom. I get it. But I've had enough of it. You're just too pathetic a self-hating wanker to bother with.

[PomonaCA]

Thank you PomonaCA for showing us, by your example, how religion will cope: with denial, evasion, sweeping displays of ignorance, accusations of idolatry, attempts at smug superiority and all the other Taliban tactics of religious fundamentalism. You can post anything you wish, PomonaCA, but you've so undercut your credibility, at least with me, and have so revealed the bad faith of your intentions, that I no longer have any reason to take anything you say as honest or accurate. Of course it's not entirely your fault. You're trapped in your cramped little mind and can't get out. You're jealous of the freedom all around you that others enjoy. You want to restrain them. You want to punish those who aren't trapped in the ways that you are. You hate us for our freedom. I get it. But I've had enough of it. You're just too pathetic a self-hating wanker to bother with.

LOL you running away? Thats ok, I'll still be here to see our discussion through. You give us your thoughts, I'll expose them. I'll be right here.

[circ]

But you haven't exposed anything. All you've done is respond with beyond retarded snide remarks about your supposed mental superiority. You really have no clue what a debate is do you?

[muhmuh]

one more thing though trish
i gotta ask why did you waste so much time on him in the first place
i mean hes been here for a while now and its pretty much been clear right from his first post that theres less going on inside his noggin than inside tfans (that was the name wasnt it? it was a long time ago)

[hippifried]

Trish is just optimistic. She's relatively young. There's still plenty of time to develop into a total cynic.