Grooby Legal Action against Piracy ...

[Felicia Katt]

Its only "private communication" when you are expressing yourself with your own thoughts and ideas. When you are trafficking in stolen videos, you are using other peoples thoughts and ideas. If someone stops you from reviewing a movie, you can complain, not when they try to stop you from copying and sending the movie itself.

FK

[BellaBellucci]

Its only "private communication" when you are expressing yourself with your own thoughts and ideas. When you are trafficking in stolen videos, you are using other peoples thoughts and ideas. If someone stops you from reviewing a movie, you can complain, not when they try to stop you from copying and sending the movie itself.

FK

How does one know the difference without violating one's privacy to find out?

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm sure you probably think your ability to acquire profit is more important than any silly thing like privacy or other people. Perhaps other people will begin to see the wisdom in that.

I'm not "acquiring" a damn thing. I invest effort, time, and money and I EARN my money. Profiting from one's own LABOR is a pretty basic concept. That's what we do.

The only ones "acquiring" anything around here are the pirates who are ROBBING our products.

[Instrumental]

I have a hypothetical scenario to put forth. I'm curious about everyone's input.
Say I buy an album, I'm sure you're all okay with that, but what if I rip that album to my computer? Some have argued that even that is unacceptable, but I think most everyone here would agree that since you own the album then it is okay to copy it to your own personal computer (and if not please say otherwise). So now I have the album on my computer and on a legit bought CD. Is it okay for me to give this CD to someone as a gift? If so, why is that okay but not letting that same person download it? Ultimately the result is the same, a person is getting an album free of charge and I would still have a copy of the album myself.

[SmashysmashY]

I'm not going to kiss the ass of someone who calls me a criminal several times now. You don't even know me lady. Respect is a two way street and I've only been polite to you and the other people in here but if that's going to be your attitude then don't bother because I'm not a sadist who came here to be insulted.

[SmashysmashY]

I'm not "acquiring" a damn thing. I invest effort, time, and money and I EARN my money. Profiting from one's own LABOR is a pretty basic concept. That's what we do.

The only ones "acquiring" anything around here are the pirates who are ROBBING our products.

Okay but what does that have to do with whether or not people can communicate privately? You said it's not cut and dry but either you can or you can't. You either have privacy or you have none.

[Felicia Katt]

an IP address, attached to a torrent file is not a sealed envelope. Its a fingerprint on a burglar's tool that can be traced to its owner and no one can claim leaving their fingerprints at a crime scene is somehow private communication.

FK

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I have a hypothetical scenario to put forth. I'm curious about everyone's input.
Say I buy an album, I'm sure you're all okay with that, but what if I rip that album to my computer? Some have argued that even that is unacceptable, but I think most everyone here would agree that since you own the album then it is okay to copy it to your own personal computer (and if not please say otherwise). So now I have the album on my computer and on a legit bought CD. Is it okay for me to give this CD to someone as a gift? If so, why is that okay but not letting that same person download it? Ultimately the result is the same, a person is getting an album free of charge and I would still have a copy of the album myself.

Stop and read back your question...

*You BUY a CD, upload it to you computer or MP3 - that is not in violation

*You give that CD to someone as a gift - Giving gifts is not in violation

Making a copy with intent to distribute is illegal as well

*That person starts making copies and selling them - VIOLATION

[SmashysmashY]

an IP address, attached to a torrent file is not a sealed envelope. Its a fingerprint on a burglar's tool that can be traced to its owner and no one can claim leaving their fingerprints at a crime scene is somehow private communication.

FK

Even if I was to grant you that (which I don't, there are private trackers) that's not the only protocol that people use to send files.

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm not going to kiss the ass of someone who calls me a criminal several times now. You don't even know me lady. Respect is a two way street and I've only been polite to you and the other people in here but if that's going to be your attitude then don't bother because I'm not a sadist who came here to be insulted.

Huh? lol I don't know anything about you, and I couldn't care less. But don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.

Look. It's pretty basic. If you rob something, you're a thief. If you're trying to justify stealing porn, I'm not absolving you of your guilt. The bottom line is, people are robbing the industry I work in and it's not ok. So "if the shoe fits..."


And wtf would you like from us now? A pat on the back and a cookie? lol

Btw I don't know if you're a sadist or a masochist, and I don't give a rat's ass. Just don't steal porn, and you won't have to feel guilty.