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    A couple of points to consider before you start making a lawyer rich:

    1. The amount of software and media illegally downloaded far outstrips what would normally be sold to to the people that download it. If not available, they simply would not and could not buy most of it. The same applies to Web sites. How many users can afford to subscribe to more than one $30 Web site a month?

    Claims of lost revenue do not always reflect this reality.

    2. The market is saturated and much of the content being produced is sub-par. In other words, you have a lot of producers and performers vying in a limited market that offers an overwhelming number of choices--many of which are not up to snuff.

    3. There are always a pricing and packaging options. If a scene that interested someone was available individually for a couple of bucks, you might find that the inconsistent but immediate nature of attraction works to your benefit.

    In other words, you can probably make a lot more money being creative and finding a formula that attracts more business rather than becoming litigious.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ghbryans1 View Post
    In other words, you can probably make a lot more money being creative and finding a formula that attracts more business rather than becoming litigious.
    Can you do both?



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    I just cant believe how dumb people are. Have you ever heard of a library? They give you a book, CD, DVD, newspaper whatever type of media you want and all you have to do is return it when they say. Now the time I have it in my possession I can do whatever I want with it. If I destroy the item I pay for it. If I want to copy a book via writing it out or photocopy then I can, and that goes for the DVD’s and CD's or audio books. Here is the thing, if I paint an exact copy of the Mona Lisa and say that I came up with it when I sell it... well that is wrong and that’s why there are copyright laws. However If I give it to someone then there is nothing wrong. Cause if everyone is so worried about stealing and losing money then let’s all just close every library in the world. After all they are sharing copyrighted material.



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    Ahhh this is why I wont be going back to any grooby websites you will NEVER ever get rid Piracy your fighting a lost cause you take down one website how many others go up b4 the day is over



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobhutt46 View Post
    I just cant believe how dumb people are. Have you ever heard of a library? They give you a book, CD, DVD, newspaper whatever type of media you want and all you have to do is return it when they say. Now the time I have it in my possession I can do whatever I want with it. If I destroy the item I pay for it. If I want to copy a book via writing it out or photocopy then I can, and that goes for the DVD’s and CD's or audio books. Here is the thing, if I paint an exact copy of the Mona Lisa and say that I came up with it when I sell it... well that is wrong and that’s why there are copyright laws. However If I give it to someone then there is nothing wrong. Cause if everyone is so worried about stealing and losing money then let’s all just close every library in the world. After all they are sharing copyrighted material.
    I think you just solved the internets. That is astounding 10/10.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobhutt46 View Post
    I just cant believe how dumb people are. Have you ever heard of a library? They give you a book, CD, DVD, newspaper whatever type of media you want and all you have to do is return it when they say. Now the time I have it in my possession I can do whatever I want with it. If I destroy the item I pay for it. If I want to copy a book via writing it out or photocopy then I can, and that goes for the DVD’s and CD's or audio books. Here is the thing, if I paint an exact copy of the Mona Lisa and say that I came up with it when I sell it... well that is wrong and that’s why there are copyright laws. However If I give it to someone then there is nothing wrong. Cause if everyone is so worried about stealing and losing money then let’s all just close every library in the world. After all they are sharing copyrighted material.
    I just cant believe how dumb people are. I would agree with you, but it's because most people don't understand the law, not because they're bad people.

    Have you ever heard of a library? They give you a book, CD, DVD, newspaper whatever type of media you want and all you have to do is return it when they say. No, they simply loan you a book for a limited period of time for you to read.

    Now the time I have it in my possession I can do whatever I want with it. Where the fuck did you get that idea?

    If I destroy the item I pay for it. So far I'm with you.

    If I want to copy a book via writing it out or photocopy then I can, and that goes for the DVD’s and CD's or audio books. No, you can't. That's called infringement. Seriously, trust me on this. That's why DVD's CD's and audio books have anti-copying mechanisms incorporated into them. And it's one of the reasons that print media is dying on the vine.

    Here is the thing, if I paint an exact copy of the Mona Lisa and say that I came up with it when I sell it... well that is wrong and that’s why there are copyright laws. Well you're not exactly right here. The copyright on the Mona Lisa is long expired, you can make whatever copy of it that you desire. And you can even say it's an original to you, but you can't say it's the original or that it's a Leonardo da Vinci. That would be wrong because, among other things it's a lie.

    However If I give it to someone then there is nothing wrong. Oh yes there is, if you give someone a copy of a book or a CD or DVD that you copied, there is something wrong with that. Basically, you've deprived the author, performer or studio of revenue based on a lost sale of the work. On the other hand, if you gave someone the original of one you actually bought and didn't retain a copy, it'd be ok.

    Cause if everyone is so worried about stealing and losing money then let’s all just close every library in the world. After all they are sharing copyrighted material. Here's where your logic falls apart. A library actually BUYS books for lending (not copying), NetFlix does the same thing, they charge you for renting a movie to view (not to copy); Yes, you are correct, libraries (and rental places) do share copyrighted materials but for the limited purpose of the borrower reading or viewing it and returning it to the library. Do you think if rented a car you could strip it and sell it for parts or simply resell it? I mean, after all, the rental companies are just sharing cars, so let's just close every car dealership .

    I get your frustration but you're misinformed about the law.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bart87 View Post
    you will NEVER ever get rid Piracy your fighting a lost cause you take down one website how many others go up b4 the day is over
    I don't think Grooby(unlike Time Warner & Motion Picture Association of America, etc) are trying to get rid piracy,they and their lawyers are just trying to shakedown a few Joe Blows,who would rather pay up than have their names publicly associated with 'deviant' tranny porn.

    If you are the kind of person who won't submit to legal blackmail or you just don't give a fuck about being 'tarnished' with the stigma of wacking off to sicko tranny porn.You would probably not end up in court or paying them anything.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bobhutt46 View Post
    I just cant believe how dumb people are. Have you ever heard of a library? They give you a book, CD, DVD, newspaper whatever type of media you want and all you have to do is return it when they say. Now the time I have it in my possession I can do whatever I want with it. If I destroy the item I pay for it. If I want to copy a book via writing it out or photocopy then I can, and that goes for the DVD’s and CD's or audio books. Here is the thing, if I paint an exact copy of the Mona Lisa and say that I came up with it when I sell it... well that is wrong and that’s why there are copyright laws. However If I give it to someone then there is nothing wrong. Cause if everyone is so worried about stealing and losing money then let’s all just close every library in the world. After all they are sharing copyrighted material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bart87 View Post
    Ahhh this is why I wont be going back to any grooby websites you will NEVER ever get rid Piracy your fighting a lost cause you take down one website how many others go up b4 the day is over
    Hmmm ... if it's a lost cause then how come we're WINNING! ?
    You've not idea how many sites we've taken down ... but don't let your idiotic posting stop you from taking a stand ... go back to other sites, not grooby websites.


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