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    Default Billionaire Koch Brothers Have Given More Than $100 Million to right wing causes...




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    The billionaire brothers who are waging a war against Obama.

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    Is that any different from billionaires waging a war against Bush?


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    George Soros anyone?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyMike View Post
    Is that any different from billionaires waging a war against Bush?
    I'm not a fan of either party. They're essentially separate wings of the same party. The business party.
    What the Koch brothers are attempting to do and doing very well (and even George Soros does this too) is trying to undercut democracy. Now, look, some people don't believe in democracy. If you're running a Fortune 500 company you loathe democracy and want it to fail. For the simple reason: democracy is bad for business.
    And businesses are very RATIONAL entities. They're trying to maximize profits. (They're what's called: rational wealth maximizers.) And to maximize shareholder return ya gotta beat down democracy. Democracy is a threat to rational self interest. That's understandable.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    I'm not a fan of either party. They're essentially separate wings of the same party. The business party.
    What the Koch brothers are attempting to do and doing very well (and even George Soros does this too) is trying to undercut democracy. Now, look, some people don't believe in democracy. If you're running a Fortune 500 company you loathe democracy and want it to fail. For the simple reason: democracy is bad for business.
    And businesses are very RATIONAL entities. They're trying to maximize profits. (They're what's called: rational wealth maximizers.) And to maximize shareholder return ya gotta beat down democracy. Democracy is a threat to rational self interest. That's understandable.
    Rational self-interest and democracy need not be separate entities. An issues arises when there aren't sufficient safeguards to protect individuals against tyranny of the majority.



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    Rational self-interest and democracy need not be separate entities. An issues arises when there aren't sufficient safeguards to protect individuals against tyranny of the majority.
    Agreed. I would only add that issues arise when there aren't sufficient safeguards to protect individuals against the tyranny of the majority, or the tyranny of the rich and powerful, or the tyranny of the supremely self-interested.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyMike View Post
    Is that any different from billionaires waging a war against Bush?
    RRRight...The Saudi Billionaires? The American Petroleum Billionaires? Or the KBR/Halliburton BILLIONAIRES?Click image for larger version. 

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