Alot of you guys are mistaking passable with beautiful.

[McRen]

Shalaya, and the poster above:


that is exactly right. Some of us WANT a tgirl, but want her in a real relationship kind of way. I dont want no trophy wife, I just want a real person, that looks, feels, and acts like a real person. She doesnt have to be a beauty queen on the outside, as much as 'passible' (i'd use the word femenine tho)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thats very refreshing Allanah and Shalaya. Two different views and take on the topic.

I admire transexuals who have strong views on alot of things and not easily sucked into pressure. We are what we are! We make the most of what we have. Bottomline is, I think as long as one is comfortable in their own skin (Wether one is beautiful, fierce and striking..or one is less prettier and passable or both beautiful, fierce and passable) then thats what matters most in the end.

We cannot please everyone..We only got ourselves to please.

"Poor is a child who's self esteem depends on the approval/acceptance of another!"

~Kisses.

HTG

[AllanahStarrNYC]

???

I think that is a truly ignorant comment. There are alot of "prostitutes" as you say that are "real" and "homely". Have you seen the Hookers on Huntspoint documentaries?

I am not sure were you live- but it seems like a dangerous place. In your post you talk about being able to use the womens bathroom without getting the police called on you- or walking down the street without getting a beat down- maybe it is because I live in NYC- but I have never had that happen to me in all my years of being a trannsexual. If you carry yourself a certain way- people will respect you- they might stare, but they will respect you. Act like a lady and you will get treated as such-

I am a fan of glamour and beauty- and I don't hold a day job. Hence why I have 36DD implants. But that is my choice and I am happy with it.

Life is not a beauty pageant or a competition- which is how most transsexuals see it. Everyone is always worried about who is prettier, younger, this, or that.

Well- the truth is THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE younger, prettier, more passable- what have you.

If you realize your own happiness and designing your looks to comply with your happiness- then you have succeeded whatever that may be.

I have lived many lives- before the porn world. I worked in night clubs, I waitressed, I worked at a make up counter, at a dungeon as a mistress, and I have had long term relationships. Ultimately, who ever loves you is going to love you for you.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

No sweetie- I did not take your comment personally. I don't take opinions personally- trust me.

As long as you are happy great.

And for hoe surged , how I am, and how big my boobs are , and my ass- I have travelled all over the US- and some parts of the world I always get treated and respected as a woman. If anything- men are usually trying to pick me up- but I blame that on the boobs.

But to say that I have never been spooked would be a lie- of course I have. But it doesn't bother me-I am not gonna let someone ruin my day by letting them feel better through putting me down.

[tsluver247]

At the Gwen Stefani-Black Eyed Peas concert, I saw two hot transsexuals (I think one advertises a long time ago and went through SRS, if I recall correctly). My friends pointed out they were men dressed up as women. Through they had smoking bodies, I believe their height, adam's apple, and one had thick wrists gave it away.

From the transsexuals I met in person, there is only a couple that seem passable.

Here is my example of passablity and beauty:

[brickcitybrother]

Passable vs. Beautiful

Ok my take on this is two fold. First, you can look at this as apples and oranges. I think that passable is an issue of what the outside world sees. Beautiful is what the closer world sees. In other words, a beautiful person may never win a beauty contest. In my definition - it is a statement about a person that goes beyond looks. In this type of contrast ... wouldn't be better to be a person with whom those you come into contact with find you to be open, appealing, interesting, etc. etc. as opposed to a person with whom people would only discuss your physical attributes? Rhetorical question of course. In this way - I am suggesting that beautiful is something more the physical attributes.

A second way of looking at this is to consider beautiful and passable only comments as to physical attributes. In that case I'll go with passable - only because my presumption is that the person would be appealing to me - even if she does not fit the great world's definition of beauty. This society's definition of beauty (as mecurial as it is) is not the only that exists. And it is not necessarily the defintion that I subscribe to.

[McRen]

actually the definition of beauty is that its in the eye of the beholder. sure there is a hollywood stereotype of what is beautiful (which is actually artificial nowadays), but different people can have vastly different opinions of who or what is beautiful

passable - that isnt really up for interpretation, it means she can function in society as a female without drawing attention to the fact that she didnt start out that way.

[rrq3200]

There is a consensus, yes... Objectivity...

But... do I consider that tgirl beautiful or pasable in a shemale perspective? Or because that "person" is beautiful? And that brings another question... Is beauty measure as shemale beautiful or female beautiful? Those are extra measurements when dealing with the concept of beauty in shemales.

For me, beauty knows no concepts or measurements. Beauty is just beauty. That's it.

[aTsLiKeN0oThEr]

tsluvr247 that gurl u posted was at my party Sunday. she is very pretty in person too.

in regards to what Allanah n Shalaya r saying... my 2 cents... EVERYONE is clockable by SOMEONE whether it's another queen, a guy, or some old lady. it doesn't matter. some folks have tranny radar n i can ALWAYS tell. my opinion ... what matters isn't that your clockable but that even if u get clocked that the person who clocked u will say she's a guy but god dayum that's a pretty one. if they still desire you or recognize your glamourous after they clock then u know that your a bad, bad bitch.

[tsluver247]

tsluvr247 that gurl u posted was at my party Sunday. she is very pretty in person too.

She goes by the name Nashali now. Her name was Sissy when I met her. She turned many men's heads when she walked in El Gato Negro, TS bar in Chicago. She is a doll and seems to have a good personality too.