Peggy Gee's statement on HD about not telling men about her past - Your thoughts?

[Nicole Dupre]

Can you believe this bitch has the nerve to call herself a "guidance counselor"?

Apr 27 2010, 01:19 AM Post #1


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I'm not telling my gender status!

I agree with the majority of the ladies 'that it t'aint nobody's business if I do, as Billie Holiday would say.

There's no way in hell that I'm going to tell every guy that hits on me, my gender status. You approached me, you're trying to get my attention. If I end up talking with you, it's to see you're worthy of getting to know better, if you aren't then one of us will get to stepping.

Telling people all over the place, that your trans is more dangerous than not. Next thing your whole town or city knows, or people at your workplace or school. And you really don't want to bring that up in a crowded club, where it can spread like wildfire.

The reality of this issue is that men don't have a clue what our lives' are like. They think cause you chat with them on a forum, or they have been in a pay for play situation that they know what makes us tick.

Hell most of them have never even met a transwoman.

I've been full time over 35 years, going on to the 13th year as a post op. I have been in many, many relationships with men. I have dated many, many men. I have been sexually intimate with many men. In none of those years have I had violent or verbal altercations with men about my gender status.

Why?

Well the men will say that I've just been lucky, and that I'm skating on thin ice, and that one day the ice will break.

As I stated as a post op I don't confide my gender status if it's just a casual encounter. And when I say casual encounters I don't mean having sex with someone I just met on the train, in a social setting, etc. We've talked about various things, conversated on a variety of topics, and I now find you somewhat interesting. You're smart, funny, engaging, so we might date for a while, but you're not quite a 'keeper'.

Now if in the course of getting to talk with and know you,what type of person are you, your temperment, and you're starting to look like a 'person of interest', somebody that I might like to be in a relationship with, then I will pick a safe time, place, and method to tell you my herstory.

But no I don't meet someone in a bar, bring him home, we're both drunk, we start to make out, and he might feel something that shouldn't be there.

For me those aren't issues cause I don't drink, and all my parts are the correct ones, but I trust you get the point.

In my life I have known many, many transwomen, and for the most part they too are aware of how to protect themselves from hazardous situations like the ones I just outlined.

I won't say that guys going off on girls because of finding out their 'T' is an urban myth or legend, but from my time as a working girl 'on the game', I've known more girls to get into situations for dipping into a clients' pocket for money, or that he doesn't want to pay after he has played.

And that "we should go to gay and tranny bars, where the men who love us are".

Sorry, that dog won't hunt.

I'm not sitting through lip-synching drag shows, with men all up on the walls looking for dick.

I don't have a dick, so you don't have any use for me, and I don't have any interest in you.

So no gay or tranny bars, I'm mildly bi, but I'm not gay, I'm not a tranny, I'm not on the game, I don't drink, so why would I go to a gay or tranny bar.

Finally, I feel that men are blaming the victim or condemning us each time a violent incident is reported in the media.

I also feel that they want to keep us in a tranny ghetto, all to themselves.

On the stealth issue, I didn't transition to be a transsexual, I transitioned to be the woman I am. I am all for helping the cause, but all I've ever wanted was a normal, hetero, mainstream, 9 -5 life, which is what I have.

So guys, when you have walked in our Payless or Ferragamo shoes then you can speak on this issue, till then I must say that you know not whereof you speak.

[Nicole Dupre]

Here's my take on this. If you have a platonic relationship with a man, this is fine. Beyond that, you're asking for trouble. Once you let a man get emotionally attached to you, they should know. I agree that there's a time and place for everything, but I don't agree that it happens after they make an emotional investment in you or you lead them on sexually.

Also, I don't appreciate the dis to the gay or drag scene. There are plenty of drag queens who are indeed post-op. And if a man is interested in them, knowing full-well what their original gender was, there's nothing wrong with it.

[Nicole Dupre]

And one more thing. Every girl who has done porn or modeled has the potential to be spotted, clocked, or spooked. We live with it every day, and do just fine without this deceitful nonsense. I don't believe that Peggy Gee has ever "been on the game". Maybe she knows trannys that pick pockets in hotel rooms, but those are her friends, not mine. She is NOT a GG. She is a TRANNY, whether she wants to face it or not. Sorry, but we are a third gender. We have no chance of giving birth or menstruating. Most of us have XY chromosomes. We should be proud of who we ARE and not bitter over who we should have been. If you want to live in bumfuck nowhere, the KKK will hang you from a tree for a variety of reasons, and being black is definitely one of them. Big cities are more progressive. That's why I would never live in some backwoods shithole. Even NJ is pushing it imo, but I deal with it just fine. I'm not into outing anyone, and I'm not wearing a sign on my back that says"I was born with a cock", but I'm not kidding myself or anyone else.

Lastly, if the guys looking for cock are soooo offensive to her, why the hell does she spend so much time on shemale porn forums? Wtf is that about? Have cake, eat it much too?

[Nicole Dupre]

LMAO @ "mildly bi".

Yeah, going by the Harry Benjamin Standards, they would NEVER have let her get a pussy if she said she liked girls! Never!

They would have given her electro shock therapy and/or a lobotomy, because that's how completely fucked up the mental health "experts" were when she transitioned.

[Solitary Brother]

We know that all women lie and have skeletons in their closet.....
Only a fool trusts a woman.

[BellaBellucci]

As I stated as a post op I don't confide my gender status if it's just a casual encounter. And when I say casual encounters I don't mean having sex with someone I just met on the train, in a social setting, etc. We've talked about various things, conversated on a variety of topics, and I now find you somewhat interesting. You're smart, funny, engaging, so we might date for a while, but you're not quite a 'keeper'.

Now if in the course of getting to talk with and know you,what type of person are you, your temperment, and you're starting to look like a 'person of interest', somebody that I might like to be in a relationship with, then I will pick a safe time, place, and method to tell you my herstory.

I agree. I don't feel I'm under any obligation to divulge my medical history to every man who shows an interest in me. If I did, I'd be outing myself on the regular. By insinuating that every transgirl should be so open about it, you're implying that we should all accept the 'third sex' just as you have. Well many of us reject that notion, myself included. We may have ambiguous sex characteristics, but the world only has two pure sexes. Anything in between is just that - in between, not something else entirely as some people would like to claim. We're women born in the wrong body and like any other birth defect, we work to correct it. We're not something else entirely and your argument actually lends credence to the idea that we're 'freaks.' Remember: separate is not equal. To put it simply: most of us aren't born to be 'trannies.' We were born women with the wrong genitalia.

Also, I don't appreciate the dis to the gay or drag scene. There are plenty of drag queens who are indeed post-op. And if a man is interested in them, knowing full-well what their original gender was, there's nothing wrong with it.

OK, fine, SOME drag performers are also trans (read: women), but they're the exception that proves the rule. Drag is a performance art for men. Drag = dressed as a girl - a distinction that's redundant, unnecessary, and inappropriate for any person who's expected to dress as a girl and IMHO it's only 'drag' for someone who's not a girl. That said, probably 98% of drag queens actually identify themselves as men. I know most of my friends in that life do. Some even get upset and defensive when you try to imply that they might be TG. Plus, let's face it: most GG's wouldn't be caught dead at a drag show because drag is primarily (although I'll admit not always) a performance art for men by men and steeped entirely in gay culture. I'm sorry that you take this attitude so personally, but if a transwoman looks up to a male-identifying drag queen as an inspiration to her womanhood, then she gets what she pays for. For many of us that's just the way we see things and it has nothing to do with you.

Most of us have XY chromosomes.

What's your obsession with chromosomes? Can you see a chromosome? Does it affect a DAMN thing? No, and no. If you want to call yourself a man due to your invisible chromosomes, then fine. I don't care if your call yourself an Abominable Snowman, but that doesn't make it so for the rest of us, so stop calling us men. Is this any way to treat your 'sisters?'

~BB~

[peggygee]

I'm not telling my gender status!

I agree with the majority of the ladies 'that it t'aint nobody's business if I do, as Billie Holiday would say.

There's no way in hell that I'm going to tell every guy that hits on me, my gender status. You approached me, you're trying to get my attention. If I end up talking with you, it's to see you're worthy of getting to know better, if you aren't then one of us will get to stepping.

Telling people all over the place, that your trans is more dangerous than not. Next thing your whole town or city knows, or people at your workplace or school. And you really don't want to bring that up in a crowded club, where it can spread like wildfire.

The reality of this issue is that men don't have a clue what our lives' are like. They think cause you chat with them on a forum, or they have been in a pay for play situation that they know what makes us tick.

Hell most of them have never even met a transwoman.

I've been full time over 35 years, going on to the 13th year as a post op. I have been in many, many relationships with men. I have dated many, many men. I have been sexually intimate with many men. In none of those years have I had violent or verbal altercations with men about my gender status.

Why?

Well the men will say that I've just been lucky, and that I'm skating on thin ice, and that one day the ice will break.

As I stated as a post op I don't confide my gender status if it's just a casual encounter. And when I say casual encounters I don't mean having sex with someone I just met on the train, in a social setting, etc. We've talked about various things, conversated on a variety of topics, and I now find you somewhat interesting. You're smart, funny, engaging, so we might date for a while, but you're not quite a 'keeper'.

Now if in the course of getting to talk with and know you,what type of person are you, your temperment, and you're starting to look like a 'person of interest', somebody that I might like to be in a relationship with, then I will pick a safe time, place, and method to tell you my herstory.

But no I don't meet someone in a bar, bring him home, we're both drunk, we start to make out, and he might feel something that shouldn't be there.
For me those aren't issues cause I don't drink, and all my parts are the correct ones, but I trust you get the point.

In my life I have known many, many transwomen, and for the most part they too are aware of how to protect themselves from hazardous situations like the ones I just outlined.

I won't say that guys going off on girls because of finding out their 'T' is an urban myth or legend, but from my time as a working girl 'on the game', I've known more girls to get into situations for dipping into a clients' pocket for money, or that he doesn't want to pay after he has played.

And that "we should go to gay and tranny bars, where the men who love us are".

Sorry, that dog won't hunt.

I'm not sitting through lip-synching drag shows, with men all up on the walls looking for dick.

I don't have a dick, so you don't have any use for me, and I don't have any interest in you.

So no gay or tranny bars, I'm mildly bi, but I'm not gay, I'm not a tranny, I'm not on the game, I don't drink, so why would I go to a gay or tranny bar.

Finally, I feel that men are blaming the victim or condemning us each time a violent incident is reported in the media.

I also feel that they want to keep us in a tranny ghetto, all to themselves.

On the stealth issue, I didn't transition to be a transsexual, I transitioned to be the woman I am. I am all for helping the cause, but all I've ever wanted was a normal, hetero, mainstream, 9 -5 life, which is what I have.

So guys, when you have walked in our Payless or Ferragamo shoes then you can speak on this issue, till then I must say that you know not whereof you speak.

[peggygee]

Nicole, thanks for your concern, but as per my usual I'm going to have
to respectfully disagree with your viewpoints.

Oh, and you forgot the cute little doggie, when you were quoting me.

[BellaBellucci]

Girl: Hi! Nice weather we're having!

Guy: Yes, it's beautiful, but not as beautiful as you.

Girl: Thanks. Just because you said that, I am obligated to tell you that I have / had a penis.

I'll take 'Unnecessary, Endangering, and Counterproductive Disclosures' for a thousand, Alex.

~BB~

[mbf]

On the stealth issue, I didn't transition to be a transsexual, I transitioned to be the woman I am. I am all for helping the cause, but all I've ever wanted was a normal, hetero, mainstream, 9 -5 life, which is what I have.

.

So you are also a mother of children I assume?

That is the embodiment of a normal, hetero, mainstream, 9-5 life of a woman.