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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    "The Trump administration is finalizing plans to allow oil and gas drilling in a portion of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge that has been protected for decades.
    The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) will offer leases on essentially the entire 1.6m-acre coastal plain, which includes places where threatened polar bears have dens and porcupine caribou visit for calving. Drilling operations are expected to be problematic for Indigenous populations, many of which rely on subsistence hunting and fishing."
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...l-gas-drilling

    This is sad news, as my understanding is that the drilling that did take place in the ANWR in the 1980s did not discover hydrocarbons with the same volume as those in Prudhoe Bay, so I see no need for this. The policy is revenge on Obama -just as he sought to protect the environment, so P45 is determined to mess it up, even destroy it just out of spite because a Black Man entered the White House as President. It is pathetic, childish but to be expected. As for the wildlife and the people who actually there, why doesn't P45 tell it like it is, and tell them to go to hell?
    But 'tis he that is making hell out of America.
    US pesidents have a 8-year limit on declartions max. Fuck that that idiot! No one knows what the next adninstrarion willl allow/disallow based on this issuse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Quinfeldt View Post
    US pesidents have a 8-year limit on declartions max. Fuck that that idiot! No one knows what the next adninstrarion willl allow/disallow based on this issuse.
    4 years, 8 years is a lifetime and more in the case of our environment, when forest the equivalent of 27 soccer fields is lost every day; and the slurry legally dumped in the rivers and streams of West Virginia by rogue coal mining companies may take a generation to clear, if anyone has the resources to do it. The more fragile environment of the Arctic can sustain industrial production in some areas with stringent safeguards, in others it has permanently damaged the tundra, and few people have any confidence in US industry with regulations lifted by P45 and his greedy chums. As Channel 4 news in the UK has reported this week, there is an unfolding crisis in Greenland as the ice-sheets melt and local authorities cannot cope with their own waste, let alone the crap that floats north to pollute the ocean.
    If you think what positive things can be achieved in 4-8 years, you can measure the extent of the loss when in the same time-frame an administration doesn't care, or works against the environment. And for what? Money? As if there are no other opportunities to make it?


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    why blame one man as this environment problem has gone on for centuries. Don't you over use water, drive when you don't need to. Don't blame one person. Look at our recycle problems with China. This everyone's problem to do more than their part. Thin donkeys not a discussion of GOP vs the jackass I mean the donkey. Keep this civil!!



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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitfufu View Post
    why blame one man as this environment problem has gone on for centuries. Don't you over use water, drive when you don't need to. Don't blame one person. Look at our recycle problems with China. This everyone's problem to do more than their part. Thin donkeys not a discussion of GOP vs the jackass I mean the donkey. Keep this civil!!
    I agree with you in regard to the personal responsibilities we have to our environment, but such responsibilities weigh more heavily in the cases of Governments that can create the regulations to protect the environment. Why would any government rescind those regulations -if they were not working or could be improved, fine. But to reverse good decisions just so the President's friends and backers can make money while polluting the land? No, that is not acceptable, and as a policy regime would not be acceptable here in the UK.


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Rabbitfufu is confusing personal responsibility with the responsibility of representing the entire populous of the US, unfortunately so is Trump.


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    just so the President's friends and backers can make money while polluting the land? No, that is not acceptable, and as a policy regime would not be acceptable here in the UK.
    There is little difference between Mr Trump and the "animals" in administration in this country, they think exactly the same as Trump, the main difference is they don't go public on what they think inc. shouting their mouths off on social media. Otherwise they are identical.


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    Quote Originally Posted by rodinuk View Post
    Rabbitfufu is confusing personal responsibility with the responsibility of representing the entire populous of the US, unfortunately so is Trump.
    They are also attempting to divert the conversation and the blame away from the fossil fuel industry and foist it upon the general public - you and me. True, we can all lessen our individual ecological footprints; but right now the oil, coal and gas industries are the largest and most prolific abusers the planet and they are the easiest to do something about and the most important to address immediately.


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    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peejaye View Post
    There is little difference between Mr Trump and the "animals" in administration in this country
    I love the use of quotations for the word animals to imply that other people commonly call their political opponents animals and you are just following suit. Thanks for your brilliant thoughts.


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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    in the 50's we did boycotts and sit in's try that today.. don't buy those products .fossil fuels and coal have been used for how many years? and we still use them



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    Default Re: Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

    We can boycott electric companies that burn coal by living without electricity. But it's more effective to regulate the use of coal, tax carbon, make it illegal to charge homeowners extra if they use solar cells, support wind and the production of electric and hybrid technologies, etc. Yes, we can make our personal choices felt in the market place, but we won't stop climate change without enforcible regulation and effective treaties.


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    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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