Climate change could mean the extinction of our species

[broncofan]

don't worry bro. i ain't mad at'cha for giving me a check. what is redvex though? is that some kind of insult?

bronco: good detective work. do you also collect my various poetry coz i have one that can be very valuable to your collection. i'll give you a hint: i wrote it in 2012. have fun

I would give you a thumbs up but I don't want you to think I'm trying to curry favor. I just remember the interaction and thought that was a nice interaction, very cordial etc. Now I see him giving you a little check and you're like "no problem sir whatever you say sir". Very interesting.

Alright, now back to the climate.

[Stavros]

do you also collect my various poetry coz i have one that can be very valuable to your collection. i'll give you a hint: i wrote it in 2012. have fun

Still going strong then, ed?
and here's me thinkin' you was dead...

anyone lived in a pretty how town

(with up so floating many bells down)

spring summer autumn winter

he sang his didn’t he danced his did

(no references this time as I am sure you know it)

[peejaye]

humans will be the means to the extinction of our species

i'll also leave it to the dickhead that has made it his life to google facts to: this

go for it asshole. write us a fucking essay with your facts about 1920s elephants being poached against today elephants and all that crap because that's a fucking great thing you're there buddy. you're really making a change with your wonderful esssays on hungangels like a dipshit

I really like your quote, to be reading about Political history in so much depth on a T-girl forum is strange to say the least! I've said before Politics is about today tomorrow & the future, not 100 years ago although these cunts in charge today are trying to take us back to Victorian times. Only thing I'd like to see is his particular Politics become history! As for his "sidekick", he's just a troll.

[Stavros]

I really like your quote, to be reading about Political history in so much depth on a T-girl forum is strange to say the least! I've said before Politics is about today tomorrow & the future, not 100 years ago although these cunts in charge today are trying to take us back to Victorian times. Only thing I'd like to see is his particular Politics become history! As for his "sidekick", he's just a troll.

But Peejaye this is the Politics and Religion section, and you cannot avoid history in either. I am also puzzled by your claim you want my 'politics' to become 'history', as it is not so far from your own.

I have, I hope, made it clear I don't think commercial firms should be allowed to pollute the environment, and government regulation is one way of achieving this -I don't think you disagree on this, I think it is something we both want.

I argued that the Thatcher government was eager to confront the National Union of Mineworkers in order to smash the union in revenge for what happened in 1973 and because they wanted to make unions irrelevant in collective bargaining -do you agree or disagree? We may not agree on Scargill, but it was his reckless and foolish behaviour that broke the back of the Union movement in this country, with the result that they failed to prevent the widening gap between rich and poor through militant or any kind of action to protect wages and conditions which, if I am not mistaken, had a direct impact on you personally. We can agree on the outcome even if we don't agree on the means by which it was achieved.

'The left' opposed the UK's membership of the 'capitalist club' the EU (boring old history but Corbyn can't escape his consistent attacks on the EU as they are on record) before they caved in to Jacques Delors in 1986 over the Single Market Act and cannot now escape responsibility for their own role in one of the most stupid and damaging decision in British history in modern times.
I have to say it, but if you had a better appreciation of the history of the UK and why we joined the European Economic Community in 1973 having been a founder member of the European Free Trade Area in 1960, you might understand why I voted Remain.

It was on the basis of what had happened in the previous 100 years that I voted Remain to secure the UK's position in the global economy for the 100 years to come, along with the collective agreements on security and intelligence, and of course environmental protection and climate change action that we owe to the next generation. For the warning signs are there, as noted in today's Independent-
Crops in Cornwall are said to be 'rotting in the fields' due to a lack of migrant workers to harvest them in the wake of Britain's decision to leave the European Union.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8049391.html

[peejaye]

I meant no offence Stavros, I got the impression you were more right of centre or very middle, what my dad used to call "Middle class" & I appreciate it's the Politics section.
I do agree Thatcher wanted revenge for what happened under Ted Heaths Government & believe she got it but I was right in the heart of the miners dispute, the only mistake Scargill made was not negotiating with Thatcher to close the uneconomical pits, she wanted to close them all!
As for JC, I believe personally he is a staunch br-exiteer despite the views of the Labour Party at the last election, much like the Tories; split down the middle?

[filghy2]

As for his "sidekick", he's just a troll.

It's funny that you should accuse me of trolling when your response to me doing no more than point out you were wrong on something a few days ago has been to:
(a) respond with personal abuse (posts 1387 and 1405);
(b) go out of your way to make further derogatory comments like the above; and
(c) give the thumbs down on every post I've made since then.

It's true that I've criticised you a few times, but these were all criticisms of things you actually said. Taking issue with people in a way that addresses the substance of what they are saying is not trolling.

[peejaye]

You go in too hard on people who have a different view from yourself. A bit "high & mighty" & I don't bother wasting my time like you marking thumbs up or thumbs down as it's totally irrelevant! I know who the other person is doing it like the one to your remark above. He's also a bit of a troll whose had his nose put out of joint. Making comments like "sounding off" & accusing people of not doing research is unnecessary?
This is a bit of fun after all!
I've been trolled a few times having been around a long time, it doesn't bother me, those that do it disappear after a while!
Me, well I'm still here.

[filghy2]

Ok, if it wasn't you doing the thumbs down I take it back. It did start at exactly the same time though, which is why I assumed it was you. I'm guessing it's someone not involved in this thread who I may have crossed swords with elsewhere.

I only give thumbs down when someone crosses the line in being abusive. I will resolve to avoid unnecessary comments if you do the same. Attributing motives to people who disagree with you is also unnecessary. Calling someone a "big headed twat" is certainly not necessary.

However, I'm not going to apologise for putting my view robustly when I think people are wrong-headed. That is part of the fun, too. We can't all be professorial like Stavros.

[Stavros]

I meant no offence Stavros, I got the impression you were more right of centre or very middle, what my dad used to call "Middle class" & I appreciate it's the Politics section.
I do agree Thatcher wanted revenge for what happened under Ted Heaths Government & believe she got it but I was right in the heart of the miners dispute, the only mistake Scargill made was not negotiating with Thatcher to close the uneconomical pits, she wanted to close them all!
As for JC, I believe personally he is a staunch br-exiteer despite the views of the Labour Party at the last election, much like the Tories; split down the middle?

I am not offended Peejaye more frustrated with some of your views.

The key thing in the miners dispute was that the Thatcher government used 'trade union reform' -particularly independent ballots for strike action to make it harder for unions to go on strike and mount picket lines outside plants. Scargill, by not holding a ballot played right into Thatcher's court, and it was the moment they relished -think of it, a strike at a time of declining demand for coal from a depleted industrial sector, and in the middle of summer!
The Trotskyists in my local party were convinced this was the turning point and they were right, but on the wrong side of victory, and as for pointing out supporting coal was a contradiction to the party's environmental policy, as usual it was all going to be sorted out when the Tories were thrown out of office and new Labour government in power.

And here we are 30 years later and you would think nothing has changed. And also it was impossible to even debate gender issues in those days other than standard women's issues like equal pay and abortion. Mention anything gay let alone transgendered and they would start giggling like schoolboys or shake their heads in dismay.

We have come a long way since those days, yet a lot has not changed on the left, if anything they are convinced their time has come again. If you wanted my view of Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum on Brexit, it is a version of Socialism in One Country, but as this was Stalin's remedy for the USSR's isolation it is a touchy tagline these days. Anyway, they supported the Social Chapter of the Single Market and may be able to play games with the Tories when the Commons debates the terms of exit, but the main aim will be to bring down the government and force another general election, which I think Labour will win, albeit with a small majority. Then they will be lumbered with Brexit.

[peejaye]

Let's all cool down & try and get along. I admit to sometimes being a bit brazen but as Stavros as often said, it's just frustration. Patience, unfortunately, isn't my strong point.