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    Me when I enter this communist-den of a hungangels section:
    Me...When you keep twatting on about it!



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    Oh noo there is absolutely no sign of a crisis or communism in the US... These are prolly all fake:
    As usual, the opposite is the reality in US education. The link below is to a thorough piece of research that Infowars would never trouble to engage in. It discovers school text books using sources such as L Ron Hubbard, that on the environment teaches-

    “Radical environmentalists” don’t just appreciate nature, but they “worship” it. In a pursuit of preservation, environmentalists “view mankind as the enemy of nature.” Environmentalists advocate for laws that hinder the advance of technology.


    And claims with regard to Psychology-
    What the Abeka textbook says: Satan did not want people worshipping God, so in the late 1800s, Satan hatched “the ideas of evolution, socialism, Marxist-socialism (Communism), progressive education, and modern psychology” to counter America’s increased religiosity.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b04e96f0c6093c

    Far from there being a left-wing conspiracy in US Education, it has become and is becoming a laboratory for backward ideas that strangle thought and progress particularly in the sciences and humanities. Some school do not even teach music presumably because of its association with the devil. And as the article makes clear, it is damaging lives, not just preventing them from realising their full potential.



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    The less free the markets are, the shittier the services and goods offered at them are and the less you can get for your money. This justifies the use of the argument by free marketers. Fascism is just a form of communism. I like neither types, but fascists seem to be effective against socialists - unfortunately only short-term as they then implement republic or democracy or some other nazism.


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    The less free the markets are, the shittier the services and goods offered at them are and the less you can get for your money. This justifies the use of the argument by free marketers. Fascism is just a form of communism. I like neither types, but fascists seem to be effective against socialists - unfortunately only short-term as they then implement republic or democracy or some other nazism.

    It is a pity but probably not surprising that you did not read the survey of education in the US that I linked for you and others to read, because it actually begs the question: is private education, or education in 'voucher schools' that operate on a market basis, offering American children a rounded and balanced education? Moreover, for someone obsessed with indoctrination in all its forms, is it not the case that the examples given are precisely that -indoctrination rather than education?

    Are children being given the tools to use to develop the critical faculties which will enable them to weigh the arguments for or against climate change, or are they being indoctrinated when told that Environmentalists advocate for laws that hinder the advance of technology.-?

    A core argument that you use, The less free the markets are, the shittier the services and goods offered at them are and the less you can get for your money, is not verified in fact. Indeed, there appear to be cases where a free market in education is a licence for religious groups to make money from parents of the same faith while delivering something so remote from learning that it should probably not be called 'education'. For someone who claims to believe in freedom, you seem relentlessly keen to take it away, even from children.

    And I am tempted to wonder how anyone with an education can write-
    fascists seem to be effective against socialists - unfortunately only short-term as they then implement republic or democracy or some other nazism.


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    Schools should be private and parents should be the ones to decide when and if at all to send their children to school.

    Talking about giving freedom to children and making them equal to their parents is a complete load of nonsense that I mentioned several times on this board already. I don't expect you to agree, as you are a retarded communist advocate of equality but I am sure any reasonable and responsible parent, who wants best for their kids, would.

    As to the nazis socialist and fascist bit - I went to a few public schools q(^.^)p


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ts RedVeX View Post
    Schools should be private and parents should be the ones to decide when and if at all to send their children to school.
    Talking about giving freedom to children and making them equal to their parents is a complete load of nonsense that I mentioned several times on this board already. I don't expect you to agree, as you are a retarded communist advocate of equality but I am sure any reasonable and responsible parent, who wants best for their kids, would.
    As to the nazis socialist and fascist bit - I went to a few public schools q(^.^)p
    I never said children should be 'equal to their parents', but what I did do, was cast doubt on the uncritical position you take on 'free market' education even when there are well documented cases -in the UK as well as the US- where the quality of education provided by the private sector is so poor it is barely worth the name education. I don't -or I ought not to- name the schools in question but let us just say they are religious schools, without damning all religious schools such as the ones we have in this country which have been centres of excellence for decades.

    But you don't want to admit there are flaws at all in the private sector because you don't approach this subject in a practical manner with any evidence of an interest in education and how it takes place, but as an ideological campaign for 'free markets' which is little different from the doctrinaire education some American students receive that insist that evolution is wrong because we are all here by God's Design and must therefore Obey God's Laws. Do you obey God's Laws?

    We could if we choose list all the people who went to state schools in the UK or the US who have been successful at what they do, be it in science and engineering, the arts and politics, even in education and so on and so on, but why bother when you could not care less about achievements of any kind, but merely trade your nihilist fantasy for attention?

    Have a go at the private education claim and show us how brilliant you are:
    Environmentalists advocate for laws that hinder the advance of technology. Discuss.


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    California's hellish fires: a visit from the Ghost of Christmas Future
    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ristmas-future

    From The Guardian


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    The Ghosts of Christmas past , present and future were able to change Ebenezer Scrooge because he was just a normal guy who appeared to be suffering from an obsessive - compulsive personality disorder as evidenced by his hoarding money and his extreme work ethic.
    It appears that Mr. Scrooge experienced a brief psychotic episode ( the ghosts and delusional thinking ) as people with personality disorders are more at risk of experiencing psychotic episodes than the general population .
    Most likely triggered by the stress of the holiday season , and lack of friends and a family support system.
    Although Mr. Scrooge is now in a highly emotional state and giving away large sums of money, he does not appear to be a danger to himself or others .
    LOL
    Pity the same can't be said for the sociopath in the White House .


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    Quote Originally Posted by sukumvit boy View Post
    The Ghosts of Christmas past , present and future were able to change Ebenezer Scrooge because he was just a normal guy who appeared to be suffering from an obsessive - compulsive personality disorder as evidenced by his hoarding money and his extreme work ethic.
    It appears that Mr. Scrooge experienced a brief psychotic episode ( the ghosts and delusional thinking ) as people with personality disorders are more at risk of experiencing psychotic episodes than the general population .
    Most likely triggered by the stress of the holiday season , and lack of friends and a family support system.
    Although Mr. Scrooge is now in a highly emotional state and giving away large sums of money, he does not appear to be a danger to himself or others .
    LOL
    Pity the same can't be said for the sociopath in the White House .
    Dickens may be seen as the product of his Victorian environment, in his fiction often drowning the reader in a glue of emotion that seems designed to expunge the guilt of the person concerned; as a man indifferent even cruel to the woman he married who was pregnant at least twelve times and bore him children who, once they had got past the 'fun part' of being children were dismissed by their dad as failures. Dickens in middle age had an affair with an 18-year old actress, and was a regular visitor with his friend the author Wilkie Collins to those areas of London and Paris most known for their 'women of ill-repute' -one could imagine him these days spending a fortnight every year in Thailand, and not just for the climate and the food.

    Dickens was often good with words, not so good with stories which go on and on and on; he depicts the sharp distinctions between poverty and wealth in mid-19th century London, appearing to side with the poor against the rich, but in politics he was a coward as the relief from poverty does not come from political action, but when it comes seems like magic or the lottery to be the sudden revelation that a distant uncle who went to America or Australia has left the character a fortune, though one notes Pip's sour dismissal of Magwitch at the end of Great Expectations as a sign that maybe Dickens also had a fetish for money that laces gratitude with resentment.
    Dickens has been described as a misogynist and a bad father in the two links below.

    One also notes that the environment became a political and social issue in Dicken's time, and that the stinking slums in which his characters lived, notably in Little Dorrit and Oliver Twist, were part of a problem that increased over the 19th century as economic growth attracted more people to the city, as well as immigrants from Italy and the Russian Empire toward the end of the century. Slum landlords made a fortune out of other people's misery.

    It was during Dicken's time that London began to build the network of sewers which still exist today, as well as a multitude of ornate public lavatories, most of which have gone, in an attempt to make the city a healthier place in which to live, the turning point being, perhaps, the celebrated moment in 1854 when John Snow removed the handle of a water pump on Broad Street (these days, Broadwick Street) having identified it as the source of a cholera outbreak in the city.

    Hard to believe that issues around something as basic as water, can in the 21st century result in a country as rich as the USA being unable to provide clean drinking water to every household. Whatever the long term effects of climate change might be on coastal areas and cities like New Orleans and Miami, easy access to drinking water remains one of the planet's greatest challenges; drinking 12 diet cokes a day is no substitute.

    http://observer.com/2012/12/daddy-is...arles-dickens/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/aut...iam-margolyes/


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    Dickens was often good with words, not so good with stories which go on and on and on;...
    I can testify to and share your assessment of their interminable length, having suffered through an eighth grade English teacher who had us read both Great Expectations and David Copperfield. As far as English class went, eighth grade was an interminable year. I’m guessing these stories ramble on so because they were published in installments and were followed the same way people follow soaps on TV today - they were the soap operas of the day.

    Hard to believe that issues around something as basic as water, can in the 21st century result in a country as rich as the USA being unable to provide clean drinking water to every household. Whatever the long term effects of climate change might be on coastal areas and cities like New Orleans and Miami, easy access to drinking water remains one of the planet's greatest challenges; drinking 12 diet cokes a day is no substitute.
    Ironic too that the bigoted wall builders who decry porous borders and hold other cultures in distain, never give a second thought to the increased pressure climate change will place on those walls and borders.


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