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    Too many civilians see TGs as TV/CDs, and I for one am glad to see the message getting to the masses that transsexuals exist in their own category and can't be conveniently typed.

    Once the media no longer refers to Tgirls as a 'he' in a random news story, real progress will have been made.



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    Lol @ "civilians"!


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    I also like her point that str8 men see tgirls as just another type of woman, like blonde, brunette, fat, skinny, black, white, short, tall, etc.

    The internet IMO has played an incalculable role in legions of str8 men coming to terms with a previously unknown powerful, sexual/emotional attraction to TGs.

    Once you come to the realization the hott GG in a str8 porn is 9 times out of 10 faking it, while TGs frequently have stiff erections as they're being fucked, and that many tgirl porn scenes end with a girl cumming...well, strictly from a sexual performance standpoint, the TG sex scene is infinitely superior to the majority of GG porn.

    This is partly the reason why I had gravitated away from conventional str8 porn and became interested in strictly amateur hetero content, with a man and an orgasmic woman filming themselves having sex for the only reason that it turns them both on.

    Actually, I'm beginning to think there are more str8 men at least sexually curious about TGs than there are gay men total in the U.S.

    Which really sux for tgirl lovers like myself, because truthfully, how many preop TGS are there out here?? 50,000?? 100,000?? I doubt there are a million tgirls nationwide, or even globally.
    Then when you start to cull the list to include only those you find 'attractive', that number plummets.

    Still it's always cool to see a lovely TG remind men that being attracted to TGs is chiefly a heterosexual archetype than than a homosexual one.

    A lot of guys will say, 'if there's a dick, it's a dude,' mistakenly focusing too much on the penis, when most tgirls lovers, I believe, start off with their attraction to the GIRL first, such as, 'that is a HOTT girl who also happens to have a penis!' - and is not a some random genitalia dressed up like a female.

    Being attracted to a girl's cock for me was an 'acquired taste' - how can you be str8 and put a dick in your mouth!?, until I reached a point that I was equally attracted to a GG's pussy the same way that I was to a TG's 'pretty clitty'.

    Anyway, back to the OP, the vid seems edited for length and I would like to see the entire lecture.
    I noticed there was only a sprinkling of guys in that classroom, which for most 20-something males, makes perfect sense. Too bad!!



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    I've been trying, to no avail, to explain this to people for a while: the transsexual, especially MTF, throws a monkey wrench into all theories on sexuality. The vocabulary currently does not exist to explain myself sexually. I am not gay, not bi, not totally straight. I identify as straight. She was right that we don't go to gay parades (although I checked one out last year). And when we do frequent events, we go looking for hot chicks--- that's it. Gay guys go to drag shows to say "that dress is fierce". Tranny admirers go to see some ass!
    The dick thing is the sticking point (pun intended). Heteros, gays, even t-girls themselves get caught up on it. Once you have accepted a tgirl as something different from a guy and a girl, you can see the cock simply as a body part SHE has. As someone said, she is a unicorn, but the horn MAKES her a unicorn and not just another pony. I am comfortable using phrases like "her cock" because to me a tgirl is a feminine anomaly that defies conventinal definitions. I view her cock no differently than I do her lips--- guys have lips, but I don't ever want to touch them. Guys have cocks, but I never want to touch them. A girls cock is a different matter.
    I realize this is a point that every guy has not come to, but I do think it is a natural progression, an "acquired taste" as you say.
    I find her thoughts refreshing because most if the girls here have absolutely no idea of the mindset of the guys who like them, nor do they try to obtain an idea.


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    You're absolutely right, sucka4chix!!
    A few girls understand the mindset of why str8 guys are attracted to them, but most really have no clue and deep down I think it confuses some TGs.

    Sad to say, but many TGs are too caught in being defined by their penis, when it's the COMBINATION of a feminine girl with a cock that's the 'magic trick', and not the dick by itself.



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    You're both right. She was spot on!



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    Gorgeous and intelligent, and I could listen to her all day.

    And I agree 100% with sucka4chix's last post. Pretty much spot on.


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    Very cool chick and understands me completely..


    I feel more like I do now than I did when I first got here..

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    awesome video she's super intelligent which is always a turn on. i discovered the transexual world when i was 16 so now after eight years i am totally comfortable with my attraction. for a short while i used to think 'what's wrong with me' but then i understood that i was open minded enough to appreciate how special these women are. i honestly believe that all guys have the potential to be attracted to transexuals but most don't have the capacity to get over the initial boundaries. how can any straight guy say they don't find allanah starr hot??? you'd be gay NOT to! and then aside from the physical there is also the psychological aspect and i don't mean this in a rude way but most guys don't have the intelligence to understand the 'concept' behind transexuals.



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    Very interesting, a great video and some interesting posts. Definitely thought provoking and as posted before the statement of straight men seeing tgirls as another type of girl is pretty accurate I would say. My affection for tgirls and experiences with them has not stopped me from being attracted to girls or only wanting to see tgirls.

    A gorgeous tgirl has it all! Straight guys enjoy penetration, they like girls breasts, many guys enjoy anal with their gf's (chance would be a fine thing), most men like to masturbate so enjoy their cock and therefore appreciate someone else's great cock. Guys love blow jobs so get pleasure also out of giving them. For sure the is much more to it, but simply put does a tgirl not have everything!

    I'm really only attracted to passable natural tgirls, but then again I feel the same about straight females, i don't like obviously surgery or the obsessive desire to keep revisiting the surgeon for more work, bigger boobs, lips, etc.

    Beauty is a mix of the physical and personality, but of course a picture only shows one dimension. There are times when you grow attracted to a girl you didn't start finding physically attracted and equally can quickly go off a gorgeous looking girl with a bad personality!

    I only use the description 'tgirls' in my post to distinguish and difference but truthfully I should probably go back and delete it as for me a tgirl is simply a girl, some I find sexy and some I don't.



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