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    If you have a drug war America should follow the lead of Singapore they dont have a drug problem .Australia,America have a drug problem but lack the resolve to stop it


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    They don't have a drug problem on the surface. We are talking about a police state with state censorship, so any junkie stories would just get buried. Also, do you know just how tiny Singapore actually is? Obviously comparable to places like Australia and the US.



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    No junkies exist or they exist on the end of a rope where they should be.WHAT A GREAT COUNTRY


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    Russtafa Goebels is willing to spread any kind of bullshit if it'll get him a new pair of hobnails.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hippifried View Post
    Russtafa Goebels is willing to spread any kind of bullshit if it'll get him a new pair of hobnails.
    Any time Mr bear I will dance with you with my steel caps. I used dance with hippies all the time but they never came back for more=truth lol


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    Default Re: Sensible John Stossel on the failed drug war...




    Time to end the war on drugs


    • Dec 19, 2011
    • BY: RICHARD BRANSON...





    Visited Portugal, as one of the Global Drug Commissioners, to congratulate them on the success of their drug policies over the last 10 years.

    Ten years ago the Portuguese Government responded to widespread public concern over drugs by rejecting a “war on drugs” approach and instead decriminalized drug possession and use. It further rebuffed convention by placing the responsibility for decreasing drug demand as well as managing dependency under the Ministry of Health rather than the Ministry of Justice. With this, the official response towards drug-dependent persons shifted from viewing them as criminals to treating them as patients.

    Now with a decade of experience Portugal provides a valuable case study of how decriminalization coupled with evidence-based strategies can reduce drug consumption, dependence, recidivism and HIV infection and create safer communities for all.

    I will set out clearly what I learned from my visit to Portugal and would urge other countries to study this:

    In 2001 Portugal became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamines.

    Jail time was replaced with offer of therapy. (The argument was that the fear of prison drives addicts underground and that incarceration is much more expensive than treatment).

    Under Portugal’s new regime, people found guilty of possessing small amounts of drugs are sent to a panel consisting of a psychologist, social worker, and legal adviser for appropriate treatment (which may be refused without criminal punishment), instead of jail.

    Critics in the poor, socially conservative and largely Catholic nation said decriminalizing drug possession would open the country to “drug tourists” and exacerbate Portugal’s drug problem; the country has some of the highest levels of hard-drug use in Europe. The recently realised results of a report commissioned by the Cato Institute, suggest otherwise.

    The paper, published by Cato in April 2011, found that in the five years after personal possession was decriminalized, illegal drug use among teens in Portugal declined and rates of new HIV infections caused by sharing of dirty needles dropped, while the number of people seeking treatment for drug addiction more than doubled.

    It has enabled the Portuguese government to manage and control the problem far better than virtually every other Western country does.

    Compared to the European Union and the US, Portugal drug use numbers are impressive.

    Following decriminalization, Portugal has the lowest rate of lifetime marijuana use in people over 15 in the EU: 10%. The most comparable figure in America is in people over 12: 39.8%, Proportionally, more Americans have used cocaine than Portuguese have used marijuana.

    The Cato paper reports that between 2001 and 2006 in Portugal, rates of lifetime use of any illegal drug among seventh through ninth graders fell from 14.1% to 10.6%. Drug use in older teens also declined. Life time heroin use among 16-18 year olds fell from 2.5% to 1.8%.

    New HIV infections in drug users fell by 17% between 1999 and 2003.

    Death related to heroin and similar drugs were cut by more than half.

    The number of people on methadone and buprenorphine treatment for drug addiction rose to 14,877 from 6,040, after decriminalization, and the considerable money saved on enforcement allowed for increase funding of drug – free treatment as well.

    Property theft has dropped dramatically (50% - 80% of all property theft worldwide is caused by drug users).

    America has the highest rates of cocaine and marijuana use in the world, and while most of the EU (including Holland) has more liberal drug laws than the US, it also has less drug use.

    Current policy debate is that it’s based on “speculation and fear mongering”, rather than empirical evidence on the effect of more lenient drug policies. In Portugal, the effect was to neutralize what had become the country’s number one public health problem.

    Decriminalization does not result in increased drug use.

    Portugal’s 10 year experiment shows clearly that enough is enough. It is time to end the war on drugs worldwide. We must stop criminalising drug users. Health and treatment should be offered to drug users – not prison. Bad drugs policies affect literally hundreds of thousands of individuals and communities across the world. We need to provide medical help to those that have problematic use – not criminal retribution.



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    Default Re: Sensible John Stossel on the failed drug war...

    U.S. Drug War In Afghanistan Not Going Well:
    https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2...an-going-well/



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