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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiecoxxdotcom View Post
    You throw around the word 'naive' a little too loosely around me bro. I'm thirty years old have been a hooker for five of those years. I've been homeless, done my fair share of jail time and have seen or been a part of just about every fucked up situation you can think of at some point in time. Fucking a little harder than normal in front of a camera and then selling the results doesn't scare me. Is that really what would qualify me as being naive? Not being scared of selling pictures of fucking? I'm all growed up - I think I can handle it.
    I'm not your "bro".
    What qualifications has being homeless, being a hooker and being in jail give you for knowing the legal boundaries of what you can and cannot do? The only thing that's given you is an attitude and probably poor business skills. I'm trying to give you some free advise, the same as I did the last time your mouth talked you into sounding naive and stupid, but I'm getting tired of.

    You are naive in the adult online industry. I'm not talking about "fucking a little harder than normal".
    Sure go ahread, be a hero, why the fuck would I care. Take on the US Government, I'm sure with all your amazing life experiences, you are more qualified to deal with it than the way more less experienced, John Stagliano, Max Hardcore and Rob Black. Or you have more experience than I, in running online adult companies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tsmandy View Post
    dejavu. Didn't you and I have this same conversation at the tranny awards?

    I believe it is possible to shoot activities that have been considered obscene in a manner which is harder to condemn publicly. For instance, Good Releasing - the DVD line for the sex toy company Good Vibrations which is now I believe a subsidiary of Fredricks..., is putting out a squirting series right now, even though John Stagliano is currently facing trial for Joey Silvera's Storm Squirters (amongst other titles). The people at good releasing aren't really all that worried that they are going to get slapped with an obscenity charge. Point being that there are no outlawed sexual activities, simply ways of depicting certain acts which have been deemed offensive.

    Now if only our distributors will let me release a movie with fisting, squirting and sex with bondage we will see if my theory is correct.
    Yeah there may be ways around it, there may not and people will certainly try. This government isn't on a soapbox about porn and obscentity like the previous one but that's not to say, some up his ass politician, in your area, is going to want to make an example of you - or that some laws may tighten.

    At least you know the laws and the risks, Mandy, unlike some naive "I wanna prove a point, bro." individuals - and can make an informed decision, in fact, you seem to want to push the envelope and test your theory. I've no need to take those sorts of risks, the return on investment isn't there and I've a company with many employees as well as myself to protect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Yeah there may be ways around it, there may not. Certainly this government isn't on a soapbox about it like the previous one but that's not to say, some big up his ass politician, in your area, is going to want to make an example of you.
    At least you know the laws and the risks, Mandy, unlike some naive "I wanna prove a point, bro." individuals - and can make an informed decision, in fact, you seem to want to push the envelope and test your theory. I've no need to take those sorts of risks, the return isn't there and I've a company with many employees as well as myself to protect.
    I believe the intent and reality of my movies may be misunderstood by the outside observer. The sex I have in my movies, is the sex that I enjoy and practice in my private life. I use my movies as a way for me to have sex with sexual athletes and virtuosos and I like to push myself, but I'm not trying to agitate anyone. I just stand by my right to fuck the way I want to fuck and I'm trying to find a way to make that happen without trouble. I don't think I have a lot to worry about, but if you want someone to worry about just look on down the road and see the girls that are coming.



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    Another thing that I find there is a huge shortage of are group jerk scenes. Just a bunch of shemales sitting around jerking off. With some big name models, I think that would be great. Especially if they are "big shooters" lol


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    Perhaps a venture featuring mostly athletic models. It is kind of a niche fetish I guess for muscular girls. Just sharing my idea, since I do not think there is a current focus on it in a pay site or dvd manner.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Ok who has the ideas? The paysite model has waned for many new sites and although we're still opening a few new sites, we're looking at other avenues.
    Our blog network is doing well, our sites like http://www.tgirls.com is pretty awesome and our new cam site, http://www.tgirl-cams.com seems to be a success in it's first week.

    We have DVD's, VOD's, Mobile, free forums and more ...

    ... so what do we do next?

    I've $75k to invest in projects in the next few months. It could be one project, it could be many. What would YOU buy. What is missing from the TS porn scene. If you had the $75k what would you do with it to make more money, in the adult TS business.

    Let's see what we can put together. Anybody with killer ideas who doesn't want to talk about it here but can bring something to the table and looking for partners, you can get me on admin@grooby.com

    As mad or mundane as it may sounds. Let's talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty0960 View Post
    Another thing that I find there is a huge shortage of are group jerk scenes. Just a bunch of shemales sitting around jerking off. With some big name models, I think that would be great. Especially if they are "big shooters" lol
    Just remember "group scenes" = multiple talent = High $


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    You know, Stevo - I'm just about tired of this myself. I wrote a very simple response to your thread without any intentions whatsoever of any kind of bickering. I mentioned a controversial name to help describe my suggestion and you had to turn it into something. You have a nasty habit of being as confrontational as possible. It's as if your not happy as long as people are merely talking and not going back and forth like a couple of ninnies.

    I brought up a few nasty things in my past to illustrate that I'm not some goody two shoes that has their head in the clouds - I've been around & and although you may not I agree, I know a thing or two.

    You can't help but call people names. If I'm so damned naive then where are all the awful consequences that were supposed to have knocked me on my ass by now? If you're so right then why am I so happy? Why is life just fine? Do you really think I get by on luck? I am hands on with everything I do from funding to final render - I don't succeed merely through acquisition. I smooth out rough edges along the way. I'm always learning, improving and never ask anyone to do anything for me.

    If I replied to this thread in order to mix it up with you I would have thrown the first punch. I would have called you a douche bag for flaunting your spare change. You're a grown ass man with a multimillion dollar company - don't act as if you don't know how to spend 75 large. And don't give me a bunch of hooey about how your 'sick of it'... no one asked you to be concerned with whether or not I was naive in the first place so don't go getting all upset when someone calls you on name calling.

    You want to do something useful with your money? Feed some homeless people, invest in an educational program, pick a charity and run with it. Stop showing off and get back to your friggin' job.



    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    I'm not your "bro".
    What qualifications has being homeless, being a hooker and being in jail give you for knowing the legal boundaries of what you can and cannot do? The only thing that's given you is an attitude and probably poor business skills. I'm trying to give you some free advise, the same as I did the last time your mouth talked you into sounding naive and stupid, but I'm getting tired of.

    You are naive in the adult online industry. I'm not talking about "fucking a little harder than normal".
    Sure go ahread, be a hero, why the fuck would I care. Take on the US Government, I'm sure with all your amazing life experiences, you are more qualified to deal with it than the way more less experienced, John Stagliano, Max Hardcore and Rob Black. Or you have more experience than I, in running online adult companies.



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    Mentioning you are naive in this industry, is not calling you names, it's suggesting that you don't know the full extent of the industry and the law. It's not about fighting and throwing punches.
    You are the one whose confrontational James. Many webmasters won't even work with you because of the way you've handled business and lied on a webmaster board, I tried to give you advise on that and have supported your site across our networks because I think your product is good, because I know you are new and naive to the internet part of this industry and because I thought we could do business together.

    Your confrontational and holier than thou, attitude as well as your motor mouth, has soured many to working with you. You've probably just talked yourself out of any future work coming to you, which is a shame, because the edit work you did do for us, was good quality.

    You have an overly defensive attitude if someone doesn't agree with you and you will fail in this industry, whether it's through legal issues or simply not getting enough sales, unless you sincerely look at your communication and business skills. You've alienated enough people, why alienate those who were a source of revenue to you, over having to prove what you think you know about the industry.


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    It's your board. I give up. Nothin' I can say at this point... you don't see my day to day workings so you're just not gonna get it.



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