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  1. #41

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    i cant believe how bad this place has gotten.

    i may not have an avatar, i have never been with a 't'girl, never been to a party like advertised on here, but i try to be respectful in everything i post on here, or anywhere.

    i think everyone here should appreciate these beautiful women who take time out of their day to post about updates in their lives, events, or to just share their opinions with us.

    not everyone is a creepy stalker only out for one thing, though recently, this board heavily suggests that is the case.



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    Attractive, transexual escorts are not ten a penny like attractive GG's. Certainly where I live in the UK, it makes much more sense to use resources like Eros, than try the haphazard process of going to a Gay/Bi transexual club. I have seen the photos, it looks like a scene from the Rocky Horror show or a Royal Marines Naked bar. Especially when the laws on escorting are as they are. It is convenient, you can choose from the privacy of your own homeand you can take steps towards maintaining your privacy that you couldn't by going to a nightclub with a Gay bent.

    I think most of the Guys who object to paying direct for sex (as opposed to paying in an indirect form that might cost more long term,) do not have the money to pay for very attractive escorts and are jealous of the men who can, have self confidence problems which mean they would be down on themselves for paying for sex ,object to prositution for religious reasons, or actually are lying and put up front pretending they don't pay for sex to their friends but they secretly do.

    I have heard many stories on here of guys who got burnt in some form by trying to pick up girls from the clubs, having one night stands or trying a relationship and to be honest it just confirms to me how right Iam. All fair play to the girls, they know in mens minds they are sex toys and cum dumpsters so they shaft men to get coin. THe guy then wonders who fucked who. Don't need the drama thanks. If I want drama I will spend a night with the wife.



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    "Guys may be attracted to strippers in a GG strip club, but they still don't mouth off like they do here. If they did, they'd get bounced out on their asses. The club serves it's purpose, and is a win/win situation for grown adults who know better. That's not the case here.

    In addition, "most guys" who are curious about trannys are not here bickering with us on a forum. The guys here fall into different categories. You just lumped all the trannys together. I didn't do that to the guys.

    In addition, you have the people who claim to be transsexuals who are supposedly supportive of TS sexworkers, yet who routinely sell us out ie. Peggy, Hara, and Tika. Strip clubs don't give faded out fuglies the opportunity to stand on a soap box and preach. Chippendales desn't let fat couch potatos talk shit about guys who work out every day. Any supposed f/t M2F who is here bitching about the sexworkers in any way shape or form needs to get booted imo. Guys who dare call us gay, because they probably know that they are, should take a fucking walk as well. But this isn't my forum."
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    You're absolutely right Nicole, this isn't your forum. You seem to forget why this fourm is here in the first place. It's a commercial venue intended to bring like-minded individuals in contact with advertisers and service providers of TS adult material. It also allows for the independent promotion of individuals on a secondary basis. The participation and traffic of individual members is critical to the existance of this board.

    So again, let me clarify your logic. Besides being a bunch of closeted, anonymous losers w/o a life, we have no business now discussing transgender or TS issues here?

    Comparing the forum to strip club or Chippendale's is illogical and abusurd . I'm sure there are forums for guys interested in strippers to discuss them as well. I'm also sure that the owners of such establishments would have great interest in the discussions as well and what their patrons think. If the consensus would be that a particular perfomer isn't popular or worse yet, she/he attacks the members critical of them, it reflects poorly on the employer and no doubt that they would be replaced. You don't think for one moment that this small industry sector represented here that you defended in your earlier post isn't here for just that reason?

    Take if for what it's worth. The board represents an anonymous niche community generally free from homophobic tendencies. That's a demographic goldmine for the industry. What you hear or read is probably a fair consensus of what many here really think but wouldn't admit in public. As with your GG sisters, you may not like what you hear, BUT it does reflect what the guys think and want. Guys are guys. Visual stimulation and the primal need for sex are instinctive traits. The supporters of this board are here to exploit that and make a profit from it. Creating dissention and attacking the membership will only drive members and their business away thus impacting the supporters profits.

    You have free access to this community to promote yourself or your agenda. Use it wisely.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sunairco
    "Guys may be attracted to strippers in a GG strip club, but they still don't mouth off like they do here. If they did, they'd get bounced out on their asses. The club serves it's purpose, and is a win/win situation for grown adults who know better. That's not the case here.

    In addition, "most guys" who are curious about trannys are not here bickering with us on a forum. The guys here fall into different categories. You just lumped all the trannys together. I didn't do that to the guys.

    In addition, you have the people who claim to be transsexuals who are supposedly supportive of TS sexworkers, yet who routinely sell us out ie. Peggy, Hara, and Tika. Strip clubs don't give faded out fuglies the opportunity to stand on a soap box and preach. Chippendales desn't let fat couch potatos talk shit about guys who work out every day. Any supposed f/t M2F who is here bitching about the sexworkers in any way shape or form needs to get booted imo. Guys who dare call us gay, because they probably know that they are, should take a fucking walk as well. But this isn't my forum."
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    You're absolutely right Nicole, this isn't your forum. You seem to forget why this fourm is here in the first place. It's a commercial venue intended to bring like-minded individuals in contact with advertisers and service providers of TS adult material. It also allows for the independent promotion of individuals on a secondary basis. The participation and traffic of individual members is critical to the existance of this board.

    So again, let me clarify your logic. Besides being a bunch of closeted, anonymous losers w/o a life, we have no business now discussing transgender or TS issues here?

    Comparing the forum to strip club or Chippendale's is illogical and abusurd . I'm sure there are forums for guys interested in strippers to discuss them as well. I'm also sure that the owners of such establishments would have great interest in the discussions as well and what their patrons think. If the consensus would be that a particular perfomer isn't popular or worse yet, she/he attacks the members critical of them, it reflects poorly on the employer and no doubt that they would be replaced. You don't think for one moment that this small industry sector represented here that you defended in your earlier post isn't here for just that reason?

    Take if for what it's worth. The board represents an anonymous niche community generally free from homophobic tendencies. That's a demographic goldmine for the industry. What you hear or read is probably a fair consensus of what many here really think but wouldn't admit in public. As with your GG sisters, you may not like what you hear, BUT it does reflect what the guys think and want. Guys are guys. Visual stimulation and the primal need for sex are instinctive traits. The supporters of this board are here to exploit that and make a profit from it. Creating dissention and attacking the membership will only drive members and their business away thus impacting the supporters profits.

    You have free access to this community to promote yourself or your agenda. Use it wisely.
    I soo love what you posted!!!!!
    But this forum is gone to hell anyway so it doesnt matter either way, just good to know that SOME of you guys are the reason some of us don't leave.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sunairco

    You're absolutely right Nicole, this isn't your forum. You seem to forget why this fourm is here in the first place. It's a commercial venue intended to bring like-minded individuals in contact with advertisers and service providers of TS adult material. It also allows for the independent promotion of individuals on a secondary basis. The participation and traffic of individual members is critical to the existance of this board.

    So again, let me clarify your logic. Besides being a bunch of closeted, anonymous losers w/o a life, we have no business now discussing transgender or TS issues here?

    Comparing the forum to strip club or Chippendale's is illogical and abusurd . I'm sure there are forums for guys interested in strippers to discuss them as well. I'm also sure that the owners of such establishments would have great interest in the discussions as well and what their patrons think. If the consensus would be that a particular perfomer isn't popular or worse yet, she/he attacks the members critical of them, it reflects poorly on the employer and no doubt that they would be replaced. You don't think for one moment that this small industry sector represented here that you defended in your earlier post isn't here for just that reason?

    Take if for what it's worth. The board represents an anonymous niche community generally free from homophobic tendencies. That's a demographic goldmine for the industry. What you hear or read is probably a fair consensus of what many here really think but wouldn't admit in public. As with your GG sisters, you may not like what you hear, BUT it does reflect what the guys think and want. Guys are guys. Visual stimulation and the primal need for sex are instinctive traits. The supporters of this board are here to exploit that and make a profit from it. Creating dissention and attacking the membership will only drive members and their business away thus impacting the supporters profits.

    You have free access to this community to promote yourself or your agenda. Use it wisely.
    Obviously you're not taking into account the male demographic who's finding the flamewars distasteful. There are gentlemen here who defend the women, and there are gentlemen here who bash the women. And the strip club was not being used as a direct comparison; it was being used as an analogy, pertaining to libidinal energy and sexworkers. The point was, there's a way to maintain respectful standards and there's a way to let them go out the window. The strip club analogy applies in the sense that a racist heckler benefits no one, nor do anonymous stalkers. If they did, then why not simply encourage bigotry? But, if basic respect isn't a standard which the powers that be want to uphold here, this forum is clearly successful.

    However, I'm not trying to think for them, and the easiest thing I can do for myself is step back and observe more, and participate less.

    So you don't have to add 2+2 for me yet again, unless you have a point make to someone other than myself. Every girl here reaches a saturation point, and there'll likely be a general consensus as to when I reached mine.



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    In my experience it's very easy to pull a TS wihtout having to pay. I've been to a TS club in London 3 times and pulled each time and the girl always approaches me. It helps that I'm in my twenties, reasonably good looking and muscular lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by MDM23
    In my experience it's very easy to pull a TS wihtout having to pay. I've been to a TS club in London 3 times and pulled each time and the girl always approaches me. It helps that I'm in my twenties, reasonably good looking and muscular lol
    Guys forget that ts are human.
    Guys forget ts have preferences
    Guys think that because you escort you will settle for anything.
    Now to me escorting is a JOB.
    When I am off the clock I have a normal life, and I date and socialize just like any other woman.
    Guys who bitch and moan about escorts are always those too ugly to hook up and too broke to pay!
    And yes, I have noticed that some guys can be intimidated by me, so if I like what I see, I will approach a guy first!



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    This all seems too easy.

    I really dont understand the need to even start this thread but whatever... I guess Indi figured some adults hadnt figured it out but its probably just a larger need to vent because there are some providers that treat their clients like utter crap which is a shitty thing to do regardless of whether its a "escort" client or any other form of "Client" Tax Return, House Painter, ect... whatever qualifies for "Client."

    So I dont even completely disagree with everything Indi said but it was axe to grind way he said it and the question of if it really needed to be stated at all that probably pissed off most of us girls which is why I waited till I could offer a better response without an emotional attachment to what was initially said. I can see he tempered his statements a little to not be all inclusive or an utter bitch fest and flame magnet but it wasnt exactly nice either.

    GUYS:
    If you dont want to pay for an Escort or you think she's too expensive?

    Dont hire one.

    I think most guys have figured out how to jack off with out needing Indi's advice by the time they ready to hire an escort. Now I could be wrong about this since I cant possibly know everyone so if any guys havent figured out how to play with themselves it sounds like he's got a good grasp of how to do it so seek him out for advice on that subject. LOL


    GIRLS:
    If you cant stand your clients and think they are the lowest form of life walking on two legs?

    Ill say what I would say to anyone who hates their job, Do something else, there is no reason to be that unhappy with what you do.

    ...SIMPLE

    I dont like mushrooms on my pizza so I dont order them or ask them to leave them off but I wouldnt bitch about it being on the menu or what they cost.

    If I was a pizza maker and couldnt stand all these customers with their special orders for one thing or another, Id find some place other than a pizza shop to work at rather than let it eat me up to the point I was shitty to everyone who called for an order.

    If you want to be treated with honor and respect, treat others that way.

    If they dont return it, walk away.
    Their lack of it does not change a single thing about who you are.

    This isnt exactly rocket science here is it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by TempestTS
    This all seems too easy.

    I really dont understand the need to even start this thread but whatever... I guess Indi figured some adults hadnt figured it out but its probably just a larger need to vent because there are some providers that treat their clients like utter crap which is a shitty thing to do regardless of whether its a "escort" client or any other form of "Client" Tax Return, House Painter, ect... whatever qualifies for "Client."

    So I dont even completely disagree with everything Indi said but it was axe to grind way he said it and the question of if it really needed to be stated at all that probably pissed off most of us girls which is why I waited till I could offer a better response without an emotional attachment to what was initially said. I can see he tempered his statements a little to not be all inclusive or an utter bitch fest and flame magnet but it wasnt exactly nice either.

    GUYS:
    If you dont want to pay for an Escort or you think she's too expensive?

    Dont hire one.

    I think most guys have figured out how to jack off with out needing Indi's advice by the time they ready to hire an escort. Now I could be wrong about this since I cant possibly know everyone so if any guys havent figured out how to play with themselves it sounds like he's got a good grasp of how to do it so seek him out for advice on that subject. LOL


    GIRLS:
    If you cant stand your clients and think they are the lowest form of life walking on two legs?

    Ill say what I would say to anyone who hates their job, Do something else, there is no reason to be that unhappy with what you do.

    ...SIMPLE

    I dont like mushrooms on my pizza so I dont order them or ask them to leave them off but I wouldnt bitch about it being on the menu or what they cost.

    If I was a pizza maker and couldnt stand all these customers with their special orders for one thing or another, Id find some place other than a pizza shop to work at rather than let it eat me up to the point I was shitty to everyone who called for an order.

    If you want to be treated with honor and respect, treat others that way.

    If they dont return it, walk away.
    Their lack of it does not change a single thing about who you are.

    This isnt exactly rocket science here is it?
    Ok Girl!

    Am going to put you down for a muffin basket! *LOL*

    Excellent response!



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    Quote Originally Posted by TempestTS
    This all seems too easy.

    I really dont understand the need to even start this thread but whatever... I guess Indi figured some adults hadnt figured it out but its probably just a larger need to vent because there are some providers that treat their clients like utter crap which is a shitty thing to do regardless of whether its a "escort" client or any other form of "Client" Tax Return, House Painter, ect... whatever qualifies for "Client."

    So I dont even completely disagree with everything Indi said but it was axe to grind way he said it and the question of if it really needed to be stated at all that probably pissed off most of us girls which is why I waited till I could offer a better response without an emotional attachment to what was initially said. I can see he tempered his statements a little to not be all inclusive or an utter bitch fest and flame magnet but it wasnt exactly nice either.

    GUYS:
    If you dont want to pay for an Escort or you think she's too expensive?

    Dont hire one.

    I think most guys have figured out how to jack off with out needing Indi's advice by the time they ready to hire an escort. Now I could be wrong about this since I cant possibly know everyone so if any guys havent figured out how to play with themselves it sounds like he's got a good grasp of how to do it so seek him out for advice on that subject. LOL


    GIRLS:
    If you cant stand your clients and think they are the lowest form of life walking on two legs?

    Ill say what I would say to anyone who hates their job, Do something else, there is no reason to be that unhappy with what you do.

    ...SIMPLE

    I dont like mushrooms on my pizza so I dont order them or ask them to leave them off but I wouldnt bitch about it being on the menu or what they cost.

    If I was a pizza maker and couldnt stand all these customers with their special orders for one thing or another, Id find some place other than a pizza shop to work at rather than let it eat me up to the point I was shitty to everyone who called for an order.

    If you want to be treated with honor and respect, treat others that way.

    If they dont return it, walk away.
    Their lack of it does not change a single thing about who you are.

    This isnt exactly rocket science here is it?
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