WHY DONT THE U.S. GIRLS VISIT EUROPE?

[ccg218]

england, germany and france are "waiver" contries, which means no visa is required. also, flights are not as bad a people believe them to be. when i was stationed in the uk, i used to fly home once a year from heathrow for about 500 bucks round trip...then again, i know some ladies here like to have that "first class" treatment.

[Shining Star]

Before 9/11/01, many USA trans travelled to Europe to "work". Indeed there was a French businessman who would call up girls in the USA and hire them to go over to France (or where ever he was in Europe). Some famous USA trannies such as Summer St. Cerly went to Europe then, and never came back.

However as PeggyGee posted, the world post 9/11/01 is very different. If a trans had a passport (regardless of being post or pre-op) before then, and has the other government issued ID that matches, she can then and still travel freely. However it is much harder today to obtain "Real ID" and most certianly a passport if one does not have proper paperwork.

Have never heard of a trannie being thrown into a USA jail for traveling with "false" documents. Though it could land her into trouble depending upon how she came upon them.

Now Europe, the UK and other countries that could be another story. In theory entering a country as "F" when one is clearly "M" (at least under one's skirts", could be seen as fraud, but again not sure what the authorities would do. There are certian countries one would never try it, such as those in the Middle East and so forth. Not really willing to wait around and hear what Islamic law has to say on the matter, nor terribly sure the USA Department of State would rush to one's aid.


There was a period of time post 9/11/01 when newly created TSA agents where harrasing transwomen, especially those with "F" ID but something made the agents doubt that was the case (in plain English, they were clocked). Of course this was going on when TSA agents weren't busy feeling up young women. *LOL*

Apparently the TSA defended their actions agains trannies in that a male terrorist could "sneak into the country" dressed as a woman, or at least get onto a plane and cause harm.

By and large the above seems to have settled down, though if one is subjected to one of those "strip search" X-ray's and the agent sees 9" where there shouldn't be, not sure what they will do if the documents say "F".

Also consider post 9/11/01 it is not as easy to move money around. Not all trannies have bank accounts, and even then arriving (or departing for that matter) USA with large sums of undeclared money will lead to problems with the TSA. Many hoes, female, male and trannie have had their funds taken by the TSA because it wasn't declared, and also because they cannot explain how and where it came from.

Some trannies used to bring the money back as traveler's cheques and try to cash or deposit them once arriving in the States, but that requires a bank account, and again the money still must be declared upon entry into the USA.

With the Euro and British Pound exchanging well against the dollar, a trannie hoe in any of the major cities such as New York, probably does not have to go to Europe for that clientle. The men come to the States often enough and again due to favorable exchange rates a $1000 date is only about $480 or so Euros.

[Jericho]

Nowadays the US dollar buys a lot less in Europe.

Don't know where you get this from.
The Yoyo and the Pound are down the kharzi, great time to be spending Dollars over here.

[thx1138]

When you say "yoyo" do you mean "Euro"? $1.22 once could buy 1 Euro. Now it takes $1.48.

[peggygee]

Before 9/11/01, many USA trans travelled to Europe to "work". Indeed there was a French businessman who would call up girls in the USA and hire them to go over to France (or where ever he was in Europe). Some famous USA trannies such as Summer St. Cerly went to Europe then, and never came back.

However as PeggyGee posted, the world post 9/11/01 is very different. If a trans had a passport (regardless of being post or pre-op) before then, and has the other government issued ID that matches, she can then and still travel freely. However it is much harder today to obtain "Real ID" and most certianly a passport if one does not have proper paperwork.

Have never heard of a trannie being thrown into a USA jail for traveling with "false" documents. Though it could land her into trouble depending upon how she came upon them.

Now Europe, the UK and other countries that could be another story. In theory entering a country as "F" when one is clearly "M" (at least under one's skirts", could be seen as fraud, but again not sure what the authorities would do. There are certian countries one would never try it, such as those in the Middle East and so forth. Not really willing to wait around and hear what Islamic law has to say on the matter, nor terribly sure the USA Department of State would rush to one's aid.


There was a period of time post 9/11/01 when newly created TSA agents where harrasing transwomen, especially those with "F" ID but something made the agents doubt that was the case (in plain English, they were clocked). Of course this was going on when TSA agents weren't busy feeling up young women. *LOL*

Apparently the TSA defended their actions agains trannies in that a male terrorist could "sneak into the country" dressed as a woman, or at least get onto a plane and cause harm.

By and large the above seems to have settled down, though if one is subjected to one of those "strip search" X-ray's and the agent sees 9" where there shouldn't be, not sure what they will do if the documents say "F".

Also consider post 9/11/01 it is not as easy to move money around. Not all trannies have bank accounts, and even then arriving (or departing for that matter) USA with large sums of undeclared money will lead to problems with the TSA. Many hoes, female, male and trannie have had their funds taken by the TSA because it wasn't declared, and also because they cannot explain how and where it came from.

Some trannies used to bring the money back as traveler's cheques and try to cash or deposit them once arriving in the States, but that requires a bank account, and again the money still must be declared upon entry into the USA.

With the Euro and British Pound exchanging well against the dollar, a trannie hoe in any of the major cities such as New York, probably does not have to go to Europe for that clientle. The men come to the States often enough and again due to favorable exchange rates a $1000 date is only about $480 or so Euros.

As always you raise excellent points, particularly in reference to women
who have "creatively acquired" their documents.

And yeah gotta love those X-ray machines.