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Thread: When soldiers are expendable...
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12-10-2009 #21
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Originally Posted by hippifried
Main Entry: trai·tor
Pronunciation: \ˈtrā-tər\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English traytour, from Anglo-French traitre, from Latin traditor, from tradere to hand over, deliver, betray, from trans-, tra- trans- + dare to give — more at date
Date: 13th century
1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
2 : one who commits treason
"Assuming Hasan is convicted, and no exculpatory evidence exonerates him, I would prefer to think of him as a traitor, than a terrorist. It's a more accurate description of his (alleged) act. Turning his weapon on his fellow soldiers was an act of profound betrayal. We have terrorists aplenty in this world: to call Hasan one more doesn't really do justice to the heinousness of his act. To call him traitor, a man who declared war on his own country and countrymen, is more apt."
"I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." - Poe
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12-10-2009 #22
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Originally Posted by El Nino
Are those nasty Bilderberg folks still keeping you up nights, Kaczynski?
"I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity." - Poe
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12-10-2009 #23
Strike a nerve did I? Go cook up some more BS, Chef. It's your SPECIALTY!!
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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12-10-2009 #24
You're not alone, Mike. There's a lot of people who think all kinds of things about this incident. This is America. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. Even Nino. But Hassan won't be charged with either terrorism or treason because the evidence doesn't support such charges. I'm not even sure how much premeditation was involved. We may never know. It's rare that we catch a mass mureder alive to ask why, but this guy is trained in the art of psychological manipulation, so I'm not all that sure that anything he says can be trusted.
I notice this story's fallen by the wayside. The coverage stopped after about a week. I guess Tiger's more interesting, or whatever goosip was happening in between the Tiger thing & the cessation of coverage of the mass murder.
"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle."
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12-11-2009 #25
Well, Hippi, you are correct sir... Everybody is entitled to an opinion (even ME, very subtle there wise ass) Unfortunately however, the vast pool of opinions seem to be getting less and less diverse as the years roll by. See the following chart and see for yourself how tightly the information is controlled. Almost starting to reek of fascism a little, eh?
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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12-11-2009 #26
That's a good graph. It shows the effect of supply side monopolistic thinking. Of course you have to remember that the FCC doesn't control print media, & that the hundreds of independents are in single markets.
So what does it have to do with this topic?
"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle."
~ Kinky Friedman ~
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12-11-2009 #27
The Graph has to do with everything about this topic. The niddy griddy details of the Wars are censored and filtered (so that you will not see the horor that it brings to both sides) through your television sets. If it were allowed, the wars would end in short order. Common citizens would *see* the expendibility factor for their own eyes; if the media wasn't controlled by the same corporations that own defense contractors, that make $ off of war. It seems as tho you like being spoonfed mainstream news drivel, however.
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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12-11-2009 #28
As far as I know, the only war we've ever engaged in, where the media wasn't censored, was VietNam. That fiasco lasted 10 years. If we hadn't lost outright, we'd still be there. We've had a perpetual war going on since 1941. It remains to be seen if there's a change in the mindset, & we start winding it all down & concentrate on humanitarian problems. Regrdless, anything is going to take years. There's no instant fix.
"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle."
~ Kinky Friedman ~
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12-11-2009 #29
It should be noted that the media is in fact censored. It is controlled and inhibited from circulating the truly graphic photos and videos that tell the tales and greusome nature of warfare. The reasons for this are obvious, but very disingenuous. FTW
Originally Posted by sexyshana
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12-11-2009 #30
Again, already known & understood. You're not imparting any secrets, Nino.
"You can pick your friends & you can pick your nose, but you can't wipe your friends off on your saddle."
~ Kinky Friedman ~