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    Default Re: Transsexual Women And Their Image Of Feminity

    Quote Originally Posted by SarahG
    The reason for transitioning is to be comfortable in your own skin.
    Unfortunately you're not preaching to the choir here. For a lot of cock-bandits, the reason for transitioning is to help absolve them of their cognitive dissonance. They want cock, but can't see themselves with a man, because that would mean they are gay. But if she walks and talks like a chick, then it is okay for love her for her dick.

    The cock-bandits are the first the defend a transwoman's desire to be called a woman, because of the implications her choice has for their own lives. But the cock-bandits become quite paternalistic as soon as her choices start to include that insane subject of SRS.



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    After a long time of observance i got the impression that most transsexual women have a certain image of a feminity:

    A face that is shaped in a certain way
    Big boobs
    Wide loaded hips
    Small shoulders
    Who have you observed? Just hookers and porn stars? I know many transgendered women of all races and ages and their faces and bodies cover the whole spectrum of shapes and sizes.



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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanahStarrNYC
    I say, why, WHY must be always be lumped into a group? We all certainly don't want to all look the same way.

    All of us are very different and we each have different beauty ideals.
    I always admired hyper-feminine women. So that is the path I followed.

    Not everyone has the same idea.
    There are genetic women with no hips, butts, boobs, big noses, -etc etc.

    The best example I can give of this is going to a ts party. There you will find a kaleidoscope of different women with all types of looks, bodys, sizes, etc etc just like you would at any social club of gg women. I mean just look at this board- there are so many different looks the girls have.

    What we percieve for ousrselves I think has little to do with thinking what a man may find attractive. At least for me anyway.
    Nobody is lumped into something.I have an impression and wanted to see if i´m right or not.As i said most transwomen follow the said image i did not think 99%,i thought of about 70-75%.And i did not say that transwomen transition in a certain way to fulfill mans desires.



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    Why critisise trans women's hyper femininity? If you're going to change into a woman then why not be a perfect one? Its why many of us love them.



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    Default Re: Transsexual Women And Their Image Of Feminity

    Quote Originally Posted by phobun
    Quote Originally Posted by SarahG
    The reason for transitioning is to be comfortable in your own skin.
    Unfortunately you're not preaching to the choir here. For a lot of cock-bandits, the reason for transitioning is to help absolve them of their cognitive dissonance. They want cock, but can't see themselves with a man, because that would mean they are gay. But if she walks and talks like a chick, then it is okay for love her for her dick.

    The cock-bandits are the first the defend a transwoman's desire to be called a woman, because of the implications her choice has for their own lives. But the cock-bandits become quite paternalistic as soon as her choices start to include that insane subject of SRS.
    You really do not understand straight men's attractions.



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    What the fuck is hyper femininity ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by farang
    What the fuck is hyper femininity ?
    The opposite of hyper masculinity.


    And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
    With all of its misery and wretched lies
    If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
    The Big Machine will just move on
    Still we cling afraid we'll fall
    Clinging like the memory which haunts us all

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahG
    Quote Originally Posted by farang
    What the fuck is hyper femininity ?
    The opposite of hyper masculinity.
    Wouldn't hypo- be the opposite of hyper-?



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    I think it's pretty presumptuous of you to assume that all the gg's in the pictures you posted feel 100% comfortable with their body image and facial features. For all you know the girl with small breasts may be modeling just so she can raise the money for a boob job.



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    Default Re: Transsexual Women And Their Image Of Feminity

    Quote Originally Posted by SarahG
    You can nickle and dime away every secondary sex "male" characteristic as something some GG's have from time to time.

    Facial hair? Baldness? Small tits? Deep voices? Adams apples? Beer bellies? Lots of body hair? Thin hips? Broad shoulders? High hairlines? Large feet? All that and more can be found in the GG population.

    If you're going to look at each of these things individually, find examples where it happens for GG's, and then go "see! You don't need to have these things changed" then you've effectively just said "there is no reason to transition."

    So why transition? Because it's got nothing to do with what some GG's look like. Guess what? Some GG's can't pass as girls. Even then, it's fairly rare for a GG to have the "whole package" of looking like your typical guy. The reason for transitioning is to be comfortable in your own skin. What that entails is different for everyone.

    Another dimension to this is that GG's look the way they do, often because that's just the way their bodies naturally developed. Unless they decide to get breast implants, what they have came to them on its own.

    With someone who is trans, in order to get breasts you have to go out of your way to do something about it- whether we're talking HRT, or implants- or as is usually the case, both. So the big question is "well, if I am going under the knife ANYWAY, why should I go with an A when I could get C's instead? Sure, most girls in my family have A's or B's, but I bet more guys would notice me if I had C's or D's" It's not a predicament that most GG's have to even think about unless they just had a mastectomy from breast cancer.

    Same with facial surgery. Ok, so you've got a really pronounced brow and want it shaved off. You're going under anyway, why not have them add cheek implants while they're in there? Why not do a nose job at the same time? Most GG's don't have to worry about getting FFS, so they don't have to make choices about what gets done to their faces.

    Or how about facial hair; ok, so some GG's get facial hair. If you're going in to get laser, are you really going to say "oh, be sure to leave a few intact on my upper lip, I see a lot of post menopausal women with facial hair so there's no need to kill ALL of them"!?

    Plus for GG's there is no trauma of having to undergo the wrong puberty. There's a lot of emotional baggage there. Sure, GG's have menopause eventually- but most of the changes that brings on (in terms of skin roughening, hair loss, facial hair, etc.) is 1- not nearly as severe (damn few GG's in menopause get full beards or lose ALL their hair), 2- a hell of a lot slower in occurring. Puberty is a fast passed process, if it's going the "wrong way" you're going to notice it in a hurry AND you're not going to have shit to do about it but suffer (because you're a child and don't have control over your own life yet), unlike menopause when you can just go on HRT.
    That pretty much nails it for me. Nicely done Sarah.


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