Kill fees?

[tsmandy]

So recently I've had a frustrating run of events in LA, having scheduled shoots in advance with assurances from producers that things are good to go, then arriving in LA and getting canceled on. 2 different producers for 2 different companies in the last month. In both cases I was not offered a kill fee, and in one case the director had canceled on me and an 8 month pregnant lady who traveled down from SF for the shoot.

Why do companies making TS porn feel its ok to do bullshit like this? I like the guys who flaked on me, but when I am assured that a shoot is happening and I travel to LA for it I want compensation if that shoot is canceled.

I know Kink regularly pays Kill fees, but I'm not sure its super common with other producers in TS porn. Why is this?

End rant.

[rameses2]

Phew, for a second there I thought you were talking about them there "Death Panels", from the Health Care Town Halls ! Srsly, that is some lame ass, bull. Those companies are taking your time, time you could be out on other work you turned down to work with the first company, but won't reimburse you for work and time lost because of them. That's gotta change!

[Mac_Hine]

were you gonna be fucking a pregnant lady in one of these scenes? if so the porn producer should be hanged, hanged i say!

anyway, just seems like more proof that tranny porn is bush league when you compare it to the rest of the industry

[BellaBellucci]

were you gonna be fucking a pregnant lady in one of these scenes? if so the porn producer should be hanged, hanged i say!

anyway, just seems like more proof that tranny porn is bush league when you compare it to the rest of the industry

I'm just curious: why does your post say 'Last edited by JHANIAH L0VE Sep 17, 2009 2:00 am?' That's weird.

~BB~

[SarahG]

were you gonna be fucking a pregnant lady in one of these scenes? if so the porn producer should be hanged, hanged i say!

anyway, just seems like more proof that tranny porn is bush league when you compare it to the rest of the industry

I'm just curious: why does your post say 'Last edited by JHANIAH L0VE Sep 17, 2009 2:00 am?' That's weird.

~BB~

You didn't hear? They made her a mod to help out

[BellaBellucci]

were you gonna be fucking a pregnant lady in one of these scenes? if so the porn producer should be hanged, hanged i say!

anyway, just seems like more proof that tranny porn is bush league when you compare it to the rest of the industry

I'm just curious: why does your post say 'Last edited by JHANIAH L0VE Sep 17, 2009 2:00 am?' That's weird.

~BB~

You didn't hear? They made her a mod to help out

For realz? You're pulling my leg.

~BB~

[SarahG]

were you gonna be fucking a pregnant lady in one of these scenes? if so the porn producer should be hanged, hanged i say!

anyway, just seems like more proof that tranny porn is bush league when you compare it to the rest of the industry

I'm just curious: why does your post say 'Last edited by JHANIAH L0VE Sep 17, 2009 2:00 am?' That's weird.

~BB~

You didn't hear? They made her a mod to help out

For realz? You're pulling my leg.

~BB~

Who, me? Would I lie to anyone?

[raybbaby]

Yeah, you should get paid something. But male performers, with the exception of maybe the top ten guys, don't get kill fees, so I feel your pain. It sucks, you could've spent your time doing something else. Not long ago I had a "casting agent" of sorts, (a very unofficial one) badgering me at 8:30 to come do a shoot at 9:00 that morning. I said no, as I'd had problems with these directors/producers before. He then called me at 11:00 wanting me to come down. If I've been there for two hours and no one is shooting yet, not only am I leaving, I expect to be compensated for my time. Not going to happen though most of the time. It's just unproffesinal in the extreme. What are you gonna do though?

Sorry about the rant!

[tsmandy]

were you gonna be fucking a pregnant lady in one of these scenes? if so the porn producer should be hanged, hanged i say!

anyway, just seems like more proof that tranny porn is bush league when you compare it to the rest of the industry

I was. We were assured that the shoot was on and drove down to LA together. Then the producer cancelled on us 2 days in a row. I ended up shooting the scene for my own site, (http://www.mandy-mitchell.com/blog/)
but we were in no way compensated by the original company that booked us. My friend is actually kind of pissed at me for not demanding a kill fee, she thinks its really unprofesh.

My point isn't to single anyone in particular out so much, but more to point out that when a girl is told "come to LA on x day" and that girl travels to town (booking a hotel, paying for travel expense etc...) then the company that books her has an obligation to compensate her if they are unable to shoot a scene. It's bullshit like this that makes me want to no longer work for other companies, not because I dislike them, but because I can't trust those gigs will not end up losing me money. LA feels like such a gamble everytime I go its real hit or miss.

[BeardedOne]

Four years in and I'm still learning the lingo. :/

So, a 'Kill Fee' is compensation, in whole or in part, for travel, accommodations, etc. for a shoot that fails to produce?

I agree, that's pretty lame. If you're going to drag talent great distances, upset their schedules, cause them out-of-pocket expense, etc. and then fail to complete and compensate for the gig, you should at least cover some if not all of those expenses.

So, tell me, a month or two down the line when Producer Y determines that Mandy & Muffy are the NBT in Prego/Trans porn, do they =really= believe that you will jump in your car and rush down to LA for a shoot, based on your past experience with them?

What was your word? 'Profesh"? NOT!