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07-09-2010 #51Christianity is the cause of all the war and hate in the world. It's why Fox news exists, why people go hungry, why ww2 happened, why we have teenagers who get killed for having sex, why homosexuals are persecuted,
why so many people get arrested for petty reasons and why rap sucks today. Seriously what hasn't Christianity killed, fucked over or hurt! Not saying there's not a god in some way but that book is pure hate, lies and bigotry. Also I like legos, pokemon and brotha lynch hung and insane clown posse. - btarded raderalAre you a Muslim?
If you're not, then go ahead and read the Koran. And remember 9/11. It wasn't Christians who hijacked those planes. - NiccoloReally a bad way of justifying christianity. I donīt think that 9/11 is a measure for everything. Islam is evil. It is an irrational religion, full of ancient myths with their prejudices and absoluteness claims but is christianity any different? No, itīs not! Why arenīt people in the West hijacking planes? Because they live secular. [...] - Coroner
If you wish to take that refutation as a "way of justifying Christianity" then please explain what you mean by "justifying". If you mean to say that Christianity is not "the cause of all the war and hate in the world" then we are in agreement. If you mean something else then please explain why you think that whatever it is that you are trying to say has any relevance whatsoever to what I actually said.
Is Islam any different from Christianity? Yes it is! Why are Muslims in the West hijacking planes? I suggest you take my original suggestion on board, and read the Koran.
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07-09-2010 #52
Stop StateWorshipping
So what you think is "the Vatican are the good guys" They placed dictator Herman Van Rompoy in EU , makes eu puppet goverment support invasions that are not their business in the first place based on the conspiracy theories your telling me now ..
We all know that american goverment loves to stage false-flag attacks blaiming on countries they wanna occupy...
Stop being a Stateworshipper...
Getting rid of religions and imperials would make way for a better world where TS-babes have better rights =)
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07-09-2010 #53
I agree with this last quoted paragraph. Religion is a tool, given to people, with the goal of them leading better lives, and helping them to understand larger issues of life and the universe. The issue is that these tools are often used by leadership to manipultate and control people. But with religion. the state will just use other tools, such as controling the flow of information. For example, Hitler used other symbols to create his mythology of a superior German people.
Hippifried is also correct, in that much of Christian doctrine, came after Christ. The Apostle Paul, who never met Jesus, is responsible for a big chnk of the new Testament. And other beliefs were the result of political compromise, such as the Council of Nicea, which produced the Nicean Creed. But this was maybe 400 years after Christ. In my own studies I have found a difference in what Paul taught and what Jesus taught. The most important difference to me, is the debate between the principles of faith vs works (actions). Jesus taught that it was actions, such as his parable of the "Good Samaritan" . Paul was more of the one who emphasized specific beliefs.
I consider myself to be a relgious person, a Christian. But I also respect Islam, and other religious beliefs. The biggest problem to me, is that many people cannot see the difference between a specific situation that was happening at the time, and general principles in their religious texts. In paritcular, Mohammed, had to make some battlefield decisions that were very specific, such as what to do with people from his own army, who were deserting during battle, and how to protect women in conquered territories from his own men. I think there are those Islamic scholars, who dont draw enough distinction between this time frame and the time when he was getting, what I consider to be purer spiritual revelations. And to add to the confusion, someone made the decision to arrange his Suras (chapers of the Koran), from the shortest to the longest. This makes it more difficult for a person to understand, how his focus changed, because of the political circumstances at the time.
The Christianity I believe in, is based more on the principles of living, which is to see yourself as a unique part of the whole, in a universe ruled by Law. But like most all religions, Christianity has lots of 'doctrine'. Where I see people failing, is to not look closer at the principles, on which doctrine is based. When doctrine starts to go agianst its own principle, this is where Hippifried's statement about "lies and bullshit" comes into play. I prefer to used different words, to say the same thing.
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07-09-2010 #54
Not really Hitlero-fascism just used dead religionous symbols , the german people wernt superiour he just made em suffer under dark goverment , stealing their homes/belongings put em in jail/camp , thats why less people could make it , he made em starve ...
The Imperialist US-Fascist satelite goverment in Bulgaria started doing same thing starving the Bulgarian people (this time without imprisonments) that never happened during socialism...
Nah he's just stuck in old thinking ...
It aint really christianity , christianity copied that by successful goverments , hindu,buddha and all the other ones copied same principles its more like "work out society stuff" ...
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07-09-2010 #55
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I love Tom Waits. You probably also know this one by Randy Newman:
Cain slew Abel, Seth knew not why
For if the children of Israel were to multiply
Why must any of the children die?
So he asked the Lord
And the Lord said:
Man means nothing, he means less to me
Than the lowliest cactus flower
Or the humblest Yucca tree
He chases round this desert
'Cause he thinks that's where I'll be
That's why I love mankind
I recoil in horror from the foulness of thee
From the squalor and the filth and the misery
How we laugh up here in heaven at the prayers you offer me
That's why I love mankind
The Christians and the Jews were having a jamboree
The Buddhists and the Hindus joined on satellite TV
They picked their four greatest priests
And they began to speak
They said, "Lord, a plague is on the world
Lord, no man is free
The temples that we built to you
Have tumbled into the sea
Lord, if you won't take care of us
Won't you please, please let us be?"
And the Lord said
And the Lord said
I burn down your cities-how blind you must be
I take from you your children and you say how blessed are we
You all must be crazy to put your faith in me
That's why I love mankind
You really need me
That's why I love mankind
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07-13-2010 #56
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This just in:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/ny...berkowitz.html
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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07-13-2010 #57
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religions are just glorified cults it's all bullshit and you're deluded if you truly believe it.
i'm sure that's gonna offend some people but that's my opinion i could be wrong and end up in hell who knows
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07-16-2010 #58