Cold hard smack of reality!!!!

[Alyssa87]

theyre on your shit again JP.
What u gonna do?

She's been with guys who are professional athletes and personal trainers, guys who've worked as models for magazines, she's been taken out for expensive dinners by hot young professionals, complimented for hours and treated like a princess and then gone back to thousand dollar hotel room suites and played the part of an erotic goddess while having mind blowing sex beyond what most people can even imagine exists and *she got paid for it*.

Yeah I can't count how many times THAT has happened . . .

after u get some surge. do more porn & put up an ad... its yours!!

[mikejones]

An interesting thread. From my experience it depends on the girl. I have met some girls who behave exactly as described by the OP, and I have met others where this was not the case at all.

I used to travel a lot for work and would usually be assigned to some place for several weeks and then move to the next assignment. I spent time with many TS girls. Some escorts and some amatuers. Absolutely some were clock watchers just hoping to finish our session as quckly as possible. There were some though that were much more friendly and genuine. There several girls that I met as escorts where I paid for my session, contacted them again and again paid for my session, but then the third time asked them out to dinner that ended up as a normal date. It was clear to me that these girls would love to find a nice guy to take care of them and then give up escorting. Because of my nomadic life at that time I was not able to pursue these long term opportunities, but I know they are there.

There are also young girls who are just beginning to transition who are not escorts. Most people would probably describe them as CDs or TVs because of their limited transition. Many of these girls would love to find a boyfriend/husband to support them as they become fully transitioned TS girls. This is how I found my current girlfriend. I met her when she was 21 and we have been together now for 3 1/2 years. She has never escorted. She goes to school to learn English (she is Latina) and has hopes to find a job in hairstyling or cosmetology.

TS girls come in all types and varieties. Don't give up and become bitter. If you meet enough of them you will likely find what you are looking for.

[fred41]

An interesting thread. From my experience it depends on the girl. I have met some girls who behave exactly as described by the OP, and I have met others where this was not the case at all.

I used to travel a lot for work and would usually be assigned to some place for several weeks and then move to the next assignment. I spent time with many TS girls. Some escorts and some amatuers. Absolutely some were clock watchers just hoping to finish our session as quckly as possible. There were some though that were much more friendly and genuine. There several girls that I met as escorts where I paid for my session, contacted them again and again paid for my session, but then the third time asked them out to dinner that ended up as a normal date. It was clear to me that these girls would love to find a nice guy totake care of them and then give up escorting. Because of my nomadic life at that time I was not able to pursue these long term opportunities, but I know they are there.

There are also young girls who are just beginning to transition who are not escorts. Most people would probably describe them as CDs or TVs because of their limited transition. Many of these girls would love to find a boyfriend/husband to support them as they become fully transitioned TS girls. This is how I found my current girlfriend. I met her when she was 21 and we have been together now for 3 1/2 years. She has never escorted. She goes to school to learn English (she is Latina) and has hopes to find a job in hairstyling or cosmetology.

TS girls come in all types and varieties. Don't give up and become bitter. If you meet enough of them you will likely find what you are looking for.

What you are talking about comes very close to "sugardaddy" status. I'm not saying that's what you are...I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to "take care" of your GF. I don't know if I'd want a relationship where I have to support someone completely(unless you meant "support" in the psychological sense).That would almost be like having a mail-order bride.

[Ryz]

9/10. Would read again

[mikejones]

An interesting thread. From my experience it depends on the girl. I have met some girls who behave exactly as described by the OP, and I have met others where this was not the case at all.

I used to travel a lot for work and would usually be assigned to some place for several weeks and then move to the next assignment. I spent time with many TS girls. Some escorts and some amatuers. Absolutely some were clock watchers just hoping to finish our session as quckly as possible. There were some though that were much more friendly and genuine. There several girls that I met as escorts where I paid for my session, contacted them again and again paid for my session, but then the third time asked them out to dinner that ended up as a normal date. It was clear to me that these girls would love to find a nice guy totake care of them and then give up escorting. Because of my nomadic life at that time I was not able to pursue these long term opportunities, but I know they are there.

There are also young girls who are just beginning to transition who are not escorts. Most people would probably describe them as CDs or TVs because of their limited transition. Many of these girls would love to find a boyfriend/husband to support them as they become fully transitioned TS girls. This is how I found my current girlfriend. I met her when she was 21 and we have been together now for 3 1/2 years. She has never escorted. She goes to school to learn English (she is Latina) and has hopes to find a job in hairstyling or cosmetology.

TS girls come in all types and varieties. Don't give up and become bitter. If you meet enough of them you will likely find what you are looking for.

What you are talking about comes very close to "sugardaddy" status. I'm not saying that's what you are...I'm just saying you don't necessarily have to "take care" of your GF. I don't know if I'd want a relationship where I have to support someone completely(unless you meant "support" in the psychological sense).That would almost be like having a mail-order bride.

Well, yes you could look at it that way I guess, but it's really no different than having a GG who is a housewife, or who only does volunteer work. If the girl is only with you because of your money, then that would ultimately be a lonely relationship. Alternatively, if you genuinely enjoy being together, then I don't see any concerns.

Men are usually able to make money more easily than TS girls that do not escort. It's not fair, and it's not true in every case, but it is the way things have evolved in our society. As a man I have no problem sharing money with a girl that I love.

You have made a thoughtful post and I enjoyed hearing your opinion on this topic.

[LBCDO]

I am the OP, and let me clear some things up.

First, this was an ad in the casual encounters section of craigslist. But as a guy, who has dated more TSs than the average person on this board, i pretty much agreed with a majority of what i copy and pasted.

Second, I have dated a TON of TSs. I know it sounds backwards, but I prefer to be an admirer, and dont even try to persue a relationship. But this also has to deal wtih me having a relationship with my gf who is a GG. Just being faithful.

People just dont understand the way things work. Yea, I dated a TS here in ATL who got out of the game escort/porn game to live with an NFL player when we parted ways. And I had NOWHERE near the cash he had. It wasn't the cash about it, it was that I had a mouthpiece and knew how to use it

you know what, fucking right, you can be 50 and overweight and still bag a fine ass TS, but you got to have swag. I'm sick of these guys who say "They just want me for my money" when you want a girl like Jessica Host but you are into World of Warcraft and Comiccon conventions. The only thing that you could possible have in common is a dollar bill! WTF!

seanchai doesnt show his face, but he's gotten more ass than a bus seat, and I'm sure hes not running around like "I own yum, fuck me", you have to have game, conversation, labia, whatever you want to call it! Nobody, TS or GG wants the guy who hangs his head low when he talks, doesnt take care of hisself, wears way outdated clothes, doesnt keep up with his appearnce, etc.

Sometimes people can be their own worst enemies...

and mike jones... it aint trickin if you got it!

[jedimaster]

nowadays, more and more young transgendered girls start transitioning early - mid teens or late teens, just out of high school or even during high school, and even though there is still prejudice and shitty families, more families are acting supportive either emotionally AND/or financially......

so there ARE many very young girls who are:

A/ pretty and passable and you wouldn't suspect they're boys
B/ working regular jobs as girls
C/ not even working but studying a regular career, while they live off campus or with their families

the fact that YOU DON'T NOTICE THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT OUT THERE ESCORTING doesn't mean they do not exist.

and if you want a pretty young TS for ONLY sex, then that's what you're gonna have to do: PAY......

if you want "freebies", then do this:

become a friend to that girl, get to know her, support and respect her, listen to her, talk to her, share quality time with her, do not judge her, and above all, DO NOT PRESS YOUR EXPECTATIONS AND FANTASIES UPON HER, treat her as any woman would want to be treated, because you don't go about the world requesting "freebies" from any woman just because she is a woman and is hot.

[fred41]

I am the OP, and let me clear some things up.

First, this was an ad in the casual encounters section of craigslist. But as a guy, who has dated more TSs than the average person on this board, i pretty much agreed with a majority of what i copy and pasted.

Second, I have dated a TON of TSs. I know it sounds backwards, but I prefer to be an admirer, and dont even try to persue a relationship. But this also has to deal wtih me having a relationship with my gf who is a GG. Just being faithful.

People just dont understand the way things work. Yea, I dated a TS here in ATL who got out of the game escort/porn game to live with an NFL player when we parted ways. And I had NOWHERE near the cash he had. It wasn't the cash about it, it was that I had a mouthpiece and knew how to use it

you know what, fucking right, you can be 50 and overweight and still bag a fine ass TS, but you got to have swag. I'm sick of these guys who say "They just want me for my money" when you want a girl like Jessica Host but you are into World of Warcraft and Comiccon conventions. The only thing that you could possible have in common is a dollar bill! WTF!

seanchai doesnt show his face, but he's gotten more ass than a bus seat, and I'm sure hes not running around like "I own yum, fuck me", you have to have game, conversation, labia, whatever you want to call it! Nobody, TS or GG wants the guy who hangs his head low when he talks, doesnt take care of hisself, wears way outdated clothes, doesnt keep up with his appearnce, etc.

Sometimes people can be their own worst enemies...

and mike jones... it aint trickin if you got it!

Good post...the only thing worse than the guys you mentioned above (lol..you hit that right on the nose) is the guys that whine about things that they can actually do something about: If you're pudgy and complain about girls (usually waaaay out of your league..lol)not wanting "regular" looking guys..well, then hit the fucking gym..and like the OP says - learn to dress better..even if it breaks your budget just a tad, remember - it's an investment in dating...I'm a guy who'll be fifty in a couple of years with a moderate income (which is less that moderate now that I'm divorced )..but I do O.K...I bust my ass at the gym, I try to dress well for whatever the situation calls for...and I'm there if the girl needs me (and my gf is fuckin' hot...yes she is...lol). That's all you usually have to do.Just like any relationship. .....or you can be really well off..that works too.

[buckjohnson]

I agree with shemal 411.

My exp have only been with GG, but they have been mostly high quality/high profile but some have been low down in the dirt. and equal to the beared crossdresser the OP mentioned I feel anytime you are with someone you are "paying" for it, either in treasure or time. Plus once you are intimate you are paying a cost that society can't measure.

As such, everyone is diff. Besides, i don't really care anymore about a physical connection. I recently went out with a 350lb female, who in the past I would have politely rejected. But she was fun, smart, energetic, and pretty.

[SarahG]

I am the OP, and let me clear some things up.

First, this was an ad in the casual encounters section of craigslist. But as a guy, who has dated more TSs than the average person on this board, i pretty much agreed with a majority of what i copy and pasted.

Second, I have dated a TON of TSs. I know it sounds backwards, but I prefer to be an admirer, and dont even try to persue a relationship. But this also has to deal wtih me having a relationship with my gf who is a GG. Just being faithful.

People just dont understand the way things work. Yea, I dated a TS here in ATL who got out of the game escort/porn game to live with an NFL player when we parted ways. And I had NOWHERE near the cash he had. It wasn't the cash about it, it was that I had a mouthpiece and knew how to use it

you know what, fucking right, you can be 50 and overweight and still bag a fine ass TS, but you got to have swag. I'm sick of these guys who say "They just want me for my money" when you want a girl like Jessica Host but you are into World of Warcraft and Comiccon conventions. The only thing that you could possible have in common is a dollar bill! WTF!

seanchai doesnt show his face, but he's gotten more ass than a bus seat, and I'm sure hes not running around like "I own yum, fuck me", you have to have game, conversation, labia, whatever you want to call it! Nobody, TS or GG wants the guy who hangs his head low when he talks, doesnt take care of hisself, wears way outdated clothes, doesnt keep up with his appearnce, etc.

Sometimes people can be their own worst enemies...

and mike jones... it aint trickin if you got it!

Good post...the only thing worse than the guys you mentioned above (lol..you hit that right on the nose) is the guys that whine about things that they can actually do something about: If you're pudgy and complain about girls (usually waaaay out of your league..lol)not wanting "regular" looking guys..well, then hit the fucking gym..and like the OP says - learn to dress better..even if it breaks your budget just a tad, remember - it's an investment in dating...I'm a guy who'll be fifty in a couple of years with a moderate income (which is less that moderate now that I'm divorced )..but I do O.K...I bust my ass at the gym, I try to dress well for whatever the situation calls for...and I'm there if the girl needs me (and my gf is fuckin' hot...yes she is...lol). That's all you usually have to do.Just like any relationship. .....or you can be really well off..that works too.

I agree with the jest of what you're saying but, I thought the OP was talking about quick, free, no questions asked hook ups (which differs somewhat from a relationship where you know the person fairly well).

For someone "just looking to bust a nut on their lunchbreak for free with some stranger," most of the relationship stuff goes out the window, no?