So True

[Cuchulain]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/op...gman.html?_r=2

'his vision of a “different kind of politics” was a vain hope, that any Democrat who made it to the White House would face “an unending procession of wild charges and fake scandals, dutifully given credence by major media organizations that somehow can’t bring themselves to declare the accusations unequivocally false.”

So, how’s it going?

Sure enough, President Obama is now facing the same kind of opposition that President Bill Clinton had to deal with: an enraged right that denies the legitimacy of his presidency, that eagerly seizes on every wild rumor manufactured by the right-wing media complex.

This opposition cannot be appeased. Some pundits claim that Mr. Obama has polarized the country by following too liberal an agenda. But the truth is that the attacks on the president have no relationship to anything he is actually doing or proposing.'

[techi]

FDR had to deal with the same type of right wing crazies. He also inherited a Supreme Court packed with reactionary judges... Andrew Mellon types. Guess what, FDR still got shit done because he provided true leadership.

Democrats have control of the House, Senate and the executive.... no excuses for failing!!! No one ever said that being President is easy and if Obama fails it's going to be due to a lack of leadership skills rather than because of some right wing crazies.

[Cuchulain]

FDR had to deal with the same type of right wing crazies. He also inherited a Supreme Court packed with reactionary judges... Andrew Mellon types. Guess what, FDR still got shit done because he provided true leadership.

Democrats have control of the House, Senate and the executive.... no excuses for failing!!! No one ever said that being President is easy and if Obama fails it's going to be due to a lack of leadership skills rather than because of some right wing crazies.

Agreed. He's got to find a way to win. Unfortunately, he's rapidly proving that he's no FDR. He needs to forget this bipartisan horseshit. Fuck the Republicans. They're not interested in anything but making Obama fail. Strongarm the CONservative Dems. Ram it down their throats.

[q1a2z3]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/opinion/14krugman.html?_r=2

'his vision of a “different kind of politics” was a vain hope, that any Democrat who made it to the White House would face “an unending procession of wild charges and fake scandals, dutifully given credence by major media organizations that somehow can’t bring themselves to declare the accusations unequivocally false.”

So, how’s it going?

Sure enough, President Obama is now facing the same kind of opposition that President Bill Clinton had to deal with: an enraged right that denies the legitimacy of his presidency, that eagerly seizes on every wild rumor manufactured by the right-wing media complex.

This opposition cannot be appeased. Some pundits claim that Mr. Obama has polarized the country by following too liberal an agenda. But the truth is that the attacks on the president have no relationship to anything he is actually doing or proposing.'

What a joke! His policies are killing the country!!!
Obama does not know how to sell nationalized health care.

Obama should have written his own plan instead of leaving up to the Emanuel brothers.

The plan would be simple and to the point.

1. Your coverage belongs to you! Not the government, not the insurance company and not to the doctors.

2. Your coverage can not be canceled for any reason. No preexisting conditions.

3. Your place in line to see the doctor is directly determined by how well you take care of yourself vs how capable you are of taking care of yourself.

4. The system would be single payer.

5. Birth control is free

6. Cosmetic surgery is not covered

7. Abortion is covered based on the laws governing each state.

8. Illegals are covered, but must be counseled by a government official to return to their home country every five years!

9. Doctors are free to freelance in private clinics and hospitals. Doctors can refuse to do any procedure they disagree with regardless of reason.

10. People are automatically enrolled at birth and are free to seek health care on the free market as well.

11 Arbitration will replace law suits in the single payer system. This is done on all stock markets. Doctors would no longer pay ridiculous premiums. Patients could not receive money in a settlement. Only services, rehabilitation, and technology would be available for remedy.

12. The creation of health credits would allow healthy people to sell their credits to the unhealthy, save them for a rainy day, or will them upon death.

If you take every able-bodied American and show them a height/weight/age chart and show them what they are doing to themselves in terms of bad diet and no exercise then their coverage will be some number of standard deviations from the norm. This will result in placing the person further back in line for health care. Their appointments will be scheduled further out in the future. Their doctor will want to see more progress to get back to the norm before something can be taken care of. Why replace a knee on a guy who weights 400 lbs? Help him get into a swimming and diet program to make progress then fix the knee.

Say the guy is not so able-bodied due to situation beyond his control like Parkinson's disease. This would be applied to push him back to the norm or perhaps closer to the norm. Anyone who is actually helping themselves stay healthy has a better outcome.Perhaps this guy does some exercises in his wheelchair and eats right. He gets points for that.

Height/weight/age/smoking/drinking/drug use/etc.. will all play into this. The credits one builds up during the healthy years could help in the unhealthy later years.

People can go beyond the norm and generate health credits. These people love to exercise, eat right, etc. A man or woman who exceeds the norm for his or her age would be rewarded!

The government would not have any patient information nor would they have any access to such information. The disbursement of monies would be done by companies who bid on blocks of patients. Insurance companies would most likely fulfill this role. Payroll deductions would continue like normal, but the money would go to the clearinghouse. The government would provide payment for those who can't pay - money would go from government to clearinghouse. When you lose your job, the government would then pay your share until you can or you pass on.

This approach would result in people knowing where they are on the pecking order for health care. People know where they are now by how much money they have and by their good/bad habits.

[q1a2z3]

FDR had to deal with the same type of right wing crazies. He also inherited a Supreme Court packed with reactionary judges... Andrew Mellon types. Guess what, FDR still got shit done because he provided true leadership.

Democrats have control of the House, Senate and the executive.... no excuses for failing!!! No one ever said that being President is easy and if Obama fails it's going to be due to a lack of leadership skills rather than because of some right wing crazies.

Agreed. He's got to find a way to win. Unfortunately, he's rapidly proving that he's no FDR. He needs to forget this bipartisan horseshit. Fuck the Republicans. They're not interested in anything but making Obama fail. Strongarm the CONservative Dems. Ram it down their throats.

RAM it up their ass too!!! LOL

A good way to get the DEMs out of office. Not a big change to go with REPs.

[Cuchulain]

What a joke! His policies are killing the country!!!

Get back in the basement you lunatic or I'll take away your sex vid of Dick Cheney and Glenn Beck. What happened to your jackass avatar? At least that one was mildly funny.

Oh well, at least your rant provides me an opportunity I never thought I'd have: to quote Barney Frank. When confronted by a deranged woman accusing him and Obama of being nazis, he told her " Madam, trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table and I have no interest in doing it."

[q1a2z3]

What a joke! His policies are killing the country!!!

Get back in the basement you lunatic or I'll take away your sex vid of Dick Cheney and Glenn Beck. What happened to your jackass avatar? At least that one was mildly funny.

Oh well, at least your rant provides me an opportunity I never thought I'd have: to quote Barney Frank. When confronted by a deranged woman accusing him and Obama of being nazis, he told her " Madam, trying to have a conversation with you would be like arguing with a dining room table and I have no interest in doing it."

Lunatic? That is the definition of a moonbat. Just look in the mirror. So.. you don't like my "obama in the woodpile" pic. TFB - lol.

The nice thing about the second American Revolution is we will round you up and deport you to Europe or make gasoline out of you - er... your choice - lol!

As for barney fag and his friends they will be at the "rear" of the health care line with all those STDs they can't control their urges for tube steak!

[El Nino]

ahahaha... nice Q, noice!

[Cuchulain]

The nice thing about the second American Revolution is we will round you up and deport you to Europe or make gasoline out of you - er... your choice - lol!

A REICHwing revolution? Please, you clowns have already had your revolution and you won...without gunfire and militias marching in the streets. Reagan, CONservative think tanks, corporate money and FOX noise have dragged this country far to the right. Maybe you're too dumb to see it and maybe you're just playing the game.

Whenever a politician pulls back from the ragged right edge, even a little, or some moderate idea or group threatens to gain some support in the public mind, you clowns scream like scalded cats. The fear-mongering and cries of 'communism' and 'we're losing our freedom' ring out.

In FDR's time. not all the CONs wanted his head on a platter. Some said "leave him alone. Let him throw the peasants a bone. It'll pacify them and we can get back to business as usual."

Lately, the CONs who aren't satisfied with most of the pie have won out. You have to have every last crumb. That's why Obama got elected. Even a disenfranchised and ignorant public took notice of the blatant thuggery of the Bush/Cheney gang.

Relax. Obama is no liberal. He's a moderate. Let him toss the peasants a few crumbs. The filthy rich will still get filthier and everyone else will still get screwed, but they'll survive to be screwed again...and yet again.

[techi]

As for barney fag and his friends they will be at the "rear" of the health care line with all those STDs they can't control their urges for tube steak!

LOL

I take it that your house is made of bullet proof glass.