Mischelle Sabrina: TG Kills Long Time Girlfriend

[phobun]

This is not true for everyone here, but there are quite a few Mrs. Garrisons running around these forums... guys who became convinced they are women. Most are marginally passable and of interest only to the Mr. Slave characters who fetishize them.

Unfortunately, these Mr. Slave "admirers" are nothing but a bunch of cock-hungry sycophants, gay toadies and obsequious masturbators who will tell the pathetic Mrs. Garrison folks what they want to hear... namely, that they are women.

The Mrs. Garrisons get high on hearing this, and reward the Mr. Slaves with pictures of their best female features... cocks, balls and assholes. So long as everyone is getting what they want, the charade is maintained.

If you dare question this paradigm, a Mrs. Garrison character will get indignant and start hollaring "I'M A WOMAN, DAMNIT!" They tend not to be the most stable individuals.

It sounds like in this case, perhaps the dude's wife questioned the paradigm.

Stop defending your simpleton's stance with psuedo-intellectual horseshhit.

And stop advertising that you think shemale porn is gay, or please just leave the damn forum. You obviously have an obsolete perspective, AND you have contempt for ALL pre-ops. You are no friend of this board.

Sorry, but right is right even if the truth isn't pretty. Phobun FTW.

~BB~

Bella is an example of a pre-op transsexual. She's pretty and has established herself as a woman and mother.

I hadn't initially noticed what Dupre wrote because I'm using a script that makes Dupre's posts disappear. Quite frankly, I think Dupre's avatar is repulsive, and about as obnoxious as Dupre's unhinged posts.

But it is quite funny that Dupre got indignant and accused me of "psuedo-intellectual horseshhit".

Intellectual? My post was a fucking reference to characters on South Park, a cartoon.

This thread is about someone accused of murder who has been called a crossdresser. So Dupre brings up pre-ops? Sorry, pre-op transsexuals are not crossdressers or shemales, nor are most pre-op transsexuals like the sad individual in KC.

Dupre erroneously wrote that I have "contempt for ALL pre-ops." I doubt Dupre is qualified to act as any sort of spokesperson for pre-op transsexuals.

[tsmandy]

Ok, and that may well be the case, but I really think we should also analyze our own behavior. Sure, final responsibility rests with her, but I think this whole situation is an opportunity for many of us to look within ourselves and ask if some of us here might have inadvertantly created an impossible environment for her. Couldn't someone even have banned her if she was unstable and causing problems? They obviously would have been doing her a favor.

~BB~

Who is we? Those of us that actually communicated with her over the last couple years, or the rest of the on-line world?

People have difficulties in dealing with death and atrocity so they constantly seek to pin blame or figure out how they could have stopped it. Seems likely Mischelle just decided to not take her meds, and freaked her gf and kids out enough so that they decided to leave. I don't really see how that is fair to use against anyone online.

[tsntx]

just goes to show you passable doesnt = pretty

shes not pretty but her mug shot looks like a woman

[SarahG]

This thread is about someone accused of murder who has been called a crossdresser. So Dupre brings up pre-ops? Sorry, pre-op transsexuals are not crossdressers or shemales, nor are most pre-op transsexuals like the sad individual in KC.

Do we know what this girl was or are we just guessing here?

What makes you say she was a TV?

Honestly the crime makes more sense to me if she's trans & unable to coupe with her delayed transition. Like if she had suddenly "gone crazy" because she couldn't come to terms with the fact that she'll never be an early transitioner, never experience what would have happened in the first half of her life, and so forth.

It would be incorrect to suppose that mental illness excludes people from being TS, if anything there seems to be strong evidence of a link between being TS and suffering from other illnesses (various depression, bipolar, and anxiety disorders as examples).

[phobun]

just goes to show you passable doesnt = pretty

shes not pretty but her mug shot looks like a woman

True enough

[SarahG]

just goes to show you passable doesnt = pretty

shes not pretty but her mug shot looks like a woman

That's actually what I thought too, also judging by that pic and the FB profile pic she must have been on hrt for a while (not gonna guess on how long).

[BellaBellucci]

Ok, and that may well be the case, but I really think we should also analyze our own behavior. Sure, final responsibility rests with her, but I think this whole situation is an opportunity for many of us to look within ourselves and ask if some of us here might have inadvertantly created an impossible environment for her. Couldn't someone even have banned her if she was unstable and causing problems? They obviously would have been doing her a favor.

~BB~

Who is we? Those of us that actually communicated with her over the last couple years, or the rest of the on-line world?

People have difficulties in dealing with death and atrocity so they constantly seek to pin blame or figure out how they could have stopped it. Seems likely Mischelle just decided to not take her meds, and freaked her gf and kids out enough so that they decided to leave. I don't really see how that is fair to use against anyone online.

We as in all of us on these boards, whether we knew her or not. And you said yourself that she was unstable. She didn't 'just do' anything if she was a ticking time bomb as you claim. It may not have been premeditated, but it sounds like it could have been foreseen.

It's not about placing blame; it's individual inward reflection on the way we treat people that can turn this tragedy into a lesson.

~BB~

[phobun]

This thread is about someone accused of murder who has been called a crossdresser. So Dupre brings up pre-ops? Sorry, pre-op transsexuals are not crossdressers or shemales, nor are most pre-op transsexuals like the sad individual in KC.

Do we know what this girl was or are we just guessing here?

What makes you say she was a TV?

I really don't know what the person in KC is. I had read someone had writted CD, but that could be wrong.

It would be incorrect to suppose that mental illness excludes people from being TS, if anything there seems to be strong evidence of a link between being TS and suffering from other illnesses (various depression, bipolar, and anxiety disorders as examples).

I think this is a fair assessment.

[tsmandy]

Do we know what this girl was or are we just guessing here?

What makes you say she was a TV?

Honestly the crime makes more sense to me if she's trans & unable to coupe with her delayed transition. Like if she had suddenly "gone crazy" because she couldn't come to terms with the fact that she'll never be an early transitioner, never experience what would have happened in the first half of her life, and so forth.

It would be incorrect to suppose that mental illness excludes people from being TS, if anything there seems to be strong evidence of a link between being TS and suffering from other illnesses (various depression, bipolar, and anxiety disorders as examples).

Mischelle said she was on hormones and living full time as a woman. she also claimed to be a young TS, which was a lie. Of course the news reported on her using male pro-nouns because that is how they refer to all TS who haven't legally squared away their documents (which would include many of the girls on this board).

I continue to use She because I have always referred to Mischelle by female pronouns.

[Felicia Katt]

The whole situation is horrible and to be sure blurring or crossing gender lines can be a source of strain and strife, even in the best circumstances. For some, that stress can be to the breaking point. But for many others maybe Mischelle included, its not the transition that drives them crazy, but that the craziness drives them to transition. This tragedy was due to that kind of general dysfunction, not gender dysphoria. No one caused it, and no amount of care or concern or counseling any of us could offer could have cured it.


FK