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08-01-2009 #31Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
On the note of self sufficiency, people who are impoverished and trans exist (frequently, I might add). Does their quality of life suck? You better believe it, but they still get out of bed in the morning and go on with their lives-just like everyone else in extreme poverty.
I will concede, however, that the "trans community" online is notoriously bad for cheerleading the act of transitioning; painting the process to be an easy one without violence, poverty, stigmatization, where everyone is "hot and passable." This sets people up for a really harsh reality check once they actually get out into the real world.
Originally Posted by whoever said this earlier
Someone who can't and never will pass surely has to deal with more in their day to day lives in terms of discrimination, stigmatization, self angst- to say nothing of the various dysphoria issues. Over time I wouldn't be surprised if that was particularly draining (emotionally and psychologically) for a lot of people- and that's without even touching on the way aging itself can cause duress for women in our society.
Showing that delaying transitioning is psychologically harmful (I believe this to be an easy argument to make, with ample evidence to support it) isn't an argument against "letting old people transition." No, it is if anything a strong argument in making it easier for trans people to transition BEFORE they get to that point. It's about preventing people from ending up in positions like this girl's in the first place.
We should, whenever possible, try to learn from the people who feel so desolate and desperate as to try something like this crime.
If this girl was so distraught over her situation as to kill her GF and children's mother, then how much worse would she be (psychologically) if her access to transitioning was forbidden based on her age? Such a proposal I can only see increasing the amount of maladaptive behavior exhibited by what would be late transitioners... increasing suicides, violence, self destructive behavior, and other psychological illnesses.
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all
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08-01-2009 #32Originally Posted by tsmandy
I know what I'm talking about. I'd rather not re-live it, but I went through this myself - my ex used to provide me 'reality' like this, telling me I was ugly and manly and all that, but you know what? I had faith that I would come out the other side and be completely 'passable' and happy. I got my wish. Mischelle didn't... and she was set up to believe she would.
~BB~
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08-01-2009 #33Originally Posted by SarahG
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08-01-2009 #34Originally Posted by SarahG
Originally Posted by SarahG
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08-01-2009 #35Originally Posted by tsmandy
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all
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08-01-2009 #36Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
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08-01-2009 #37Originally Posted by tsmandy
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08-01-2009 #38Originally Posted by tsmandy
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08-01-2009 #39Originally Posted by SarahG
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08-01-2009 #40Originally Posted by BellaBellucci
This sounds more like she would have needed to be institutionalized against her will because she simply went into denial & belligerency whenever confronted with reality, even when coming from other trans people. Even if she had sought out professional help, she would have been reacting the same way to the same insights.
The only way she would have been institutionalized was if she made it clear that she was set on hurting someone or herself, which doesn't sound to be obvious (it sounds like this was an impulsive heat of the moment reaction to whatever was going on in her household at the time).
And maybe its easier to withdraw from life
With all of its misery and wretched lies
If we're dead when tomorrow's gone
The Big Machine will just move on
Still we cling afraid we'll fall
Clinging like the memory which haunts us all